4 players for next season I would like to go after

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    1.). Maynor: I think with a full training camp and season; maynor will be a great addition to this ball club. I do understand that the QO is pretty steep, but I believe the end scenario will be enough for us to get all players.

    2.) JJ Redick: this is the guy that can immediately improve this ball club. He isn't a great defender; but one of the best shooters. He handles the ball well; plus he can create his own shot. What he's really good at is creating spacing and able to punish teams that gamble off him. I would live to use him as the entry passer to Aldridge on the block.

    3.) Dalambert: this guy is a 15-20 minute player that has starter capabilities. He is a post defender and able to protect the paint. He's got back to the basket scoring and sets very good picks. He would be a short term solution for the blazers at center; but I think we want a developed Leonard to start eventually.

    4.) Jermaine Oneal: he still has the low post moves, back to the basket scoring and defends well. He is a great help defender and can play both pf and center. He would be a 10-15 minute player that can take more low block scoring loads off of Aldridge.

    So how do we get all three players? It seems redick wants 10 mil; but I think 6-7 mil will be the offers he gets. Oneal will get around 800-1.2 million (vet min). Dalembert will get around 5-6 million. Maynor will probably get around 2.5-3 million. Add that all up and it's 13.8-17.2 million.

    This is how I see it able to unfold.

    1.) renounce hickson and maynor (agree before renouncing that we will resign him)

    2.) offer redick 3 years; 21 million back loaded.

    3.). Offer Dalambert 3 years; 18 million back loaded.

    4.) resign Maynor 3 years; 9 million back loaded

    5.) sign Jerm for vet minimum.
     
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    Back loading doesn't work to free up capspace. The avg amount made is what the caphit is with contracts that get frontloaded (like Mathews who is making less then his caphit this year) or backloaded like Asik/Lin whos contract hits Houston at 8 a year instead of the 5/5/14 that they are actualy paid.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Then it still works. Maybe we should front load them then?
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    The reason I say "front loaded" is when those contracts are about up; we will need to give Lillard his payday. To avoid serious luxury tax penalties; it maybe better to get it out of the way before we really get dinged for a resigned Aldridge and Lillard.
     
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    If we are absolutely forced to keep our draft pick, I would take a serious look at Trey Burke, if available - which would save us money on Maynor, although unproven.

    Otherwise, I'd really like to pursue a big time center. Either through trade or FA. (Al Jefferson). Resign Hickson, Maynor.

    Still would like to see Tyreke Evans in a Blazer uni, also.
     
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    I am right with you on Maynor. Lillard needs a decent pg behind him, and a small ball partner. Great fit and room to grow.
    I think this is a waste. He is a great shooter, but does not improve spacing because he would be taking time mainly from Wes, Batum, and perhaps from Lillard and Maynor. Those players all shoot well enough from distance that the defense already has to respect them and defend them. It might improve spacing when he plays instead of Barton, but how often is that going to be the issue. He is a worse defender than Wes or Batum.

    I would like to have him, but I just don't think he is worth the contract he will get on this team. The Blazers either need a big improvement at SG, or a cheap but serviceable backup. The middle ground is dangerous.
    Agreed that he would be a decent stopgap, and I'm fine with that. I would prefer a better upgrade at C, especially defensively, than any other position, but if we strike out on getting a better C, I would be fine with Delambert
    I always loved oneal, and if he can be had for vet min then perfect bench vet.
     
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    I've got to say none of those players would excite me. Those are the kind of players the Miami Heat adds to go with James, Wade and Bosh. We need to aim higher.
     
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    I wouldn't mind a straight-up swap of Wes for a S&T Redick, but I like both more than most. Redick has enough handles and vision to let Lillard play off the ball some of the time they're on the court together. Defense would hurt a bit, but JJ'd be guarding the 3rd-best guard/wing on the other team, anyway.
    I would love to keep Maynor. Interesting to see how his situation plays out.
    As I said before, I wouldn't put it past Olshey to toss 12-13M a year at Bynum for 3 years (maybe last year non-guaranteed). If we send Freeland over as part of the S&T we clear up 3M or so.
    Resign Maynor with that 3M or the Room Exception? Probably not, but it'd be really nice.

    Lillard/Redick/Batum/LMA/Bynum with Maynor, Claver, Papanikolou, Leonard and the #12 pick as primary backups.
     
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    that would be a true roll of the dice. If he was motivated and physically right, he'd pay off. For Bigs, I'd also be interested in kicking the tires of Anderson Verejao and Nene to see where their price tag is at

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    Verejao would be a near ideal pairing with Aldridge, if he could stay healthy.
     
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    redick is a good defender
    and he could go other places and start instantly
     
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    I'd rescue Pekovic from that slum in Minnesota.
     
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    I'm iffy on pec, I really want a lanky, defend the rim, 80%defense and 20% offense, center. I really am not too sure Pec is a good match for an athletic team like the Blazers
     
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    A healthy and young Joel pryzbilla would do wonders for this team.
     
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    No thanks. I want a center that is capable of doing SOMETHING on offense. Otherwise our spacing is immediately fucked. Everyone loved Joel, but he was a serious hinderance to our offense...
     
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    I disagree. Just because he didn't score, doesn't mean that he wasn't an asset offensively. He set some of the best picks I've seen a center set. He enforced and had many offensive rebounds. But he had a wonderful leadership on the offensive end
     
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    They are nothing alike, at all, in any way, nada, zilch, nothing similar in their games. Pek is a much better offensive player, and much worse defender. Joel was taller, had better reach, but most importantly he made defense his goal in life. That's how you become a very good defender with limited athletic abilities, you make defense your one goal. Pek has not shown that tenacity on D that Joel had.
     

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