Hey MaxiePad, if your balls make you take abuse like a little bitch, maybe it would be better if you removed them off.
One of his players should have knocked him out. At times you may get angry, curse, slam the ball on the court etc...but to totally berate someone, push them around and throw stuff at them is abusive. I wouldn't treat an animal that way, and find it disgusting that some people on this board condone this. You guys are cocka-roaches!
He should have been fired I don't care who his dad is. With him saying he's going to change because he's going to do all this things to change except get help is like an alcoholic saying he wont take another drink without getting help. The guy obviously needs to go though anger management. It will only be a matter of time till this happens again.
...whelp, it looks like Rutgers had no choice in the matter -- credit Rice Jr. for owning up to his actions in this video --> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9129136
Ironically he is now the most famous coach in the country, people who could not name any other college or pro coach know who he is. I was listening this morning to KFOG, one of the few remaining locally (SF) owned radio stations. They don't cover sports beyond giving A's and Giants scores, and they were talking about Rice. Has anyone else remembered, BTW, that it was a Rutgers student only about a year ago who committed suicide jumping off the George Washington Bridge after his roommate outed him against his will and secretly taped (and distributed) him with his boyfriend?
PC gone way overboard. I don't condone the guy's behavior, but I also don't think it's as vile as it's being made out to be. I'd tend to give a little leeway toward situations like sports team building, military boot camp, the military in general, hazing as fraternity rites, etc. You sign up for those things voluntarily.
Yeah I saw a lot of great team building there, like when the kid had his back turned and a basketball got whipped at his head from about 6 feet away. They spliced together 40 minutes of great teambuilding. I honestly can't believe how many people on here are not condemning this behavior for a basketball coach. I don't see any coaches coming to MR, Jr.'s defense. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/22001278/hall-of-fame-coaches-say-abuse-never-right
You did see the part where he was told to go anger management treatment when he was suspended last year, and that he began anger management treatment immediately, and that he's been going through treatment all along, right?
What's to gain by coming to his defense? The guy had a terrible record as head coach at Rutgers. For that he should be fired. If he were Bobby Knight (900+ wins), people would be far more understanding. There's an element of brainwashing (for lack of a better word) involved that actually builds a stronger bond between the players. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazing Hazing supposedly serves a deliberate purpose, of building solidarity. Psychologist Robert Cialdini uses the framework of consistency and commitment to explain the phenomenon of hazing, and the vigor and zeal to which practitioners of hazing persist in and defend these activities even when they are made illegal.[27] Cialdini cites a 1959 study in which the researchers observed that "persons who go through a great deal of trouble or pain to attain something tend to value it more highly than persons who attain the same thing with a minimum of effort."[28] The 1959 study was a famous experiment by Aronson & Mills and it shaped the development of cognitive dissonance theory by Leon Festinger[29] Dissonance can produce feelings of group attraction or social identity among initiates after the hazing experience because they want to justify the effort used. Rewards during initiations or hazing rituals matter in that initiates who feel more rewarded express stronger group identity.[30] As well as increasing group attraction, hazing can produce conformity among new members.[31] Hazing could also increase feelings of affiliation because of the stressful nature of the hazing experience .[32]
I think he thought he was doing it, but his inability to contain his frustration resulted in him crossing the line between heavy-handed-but-effective training techniques and childish bullying...
I don't know him. I'd assume a guy who's coaching a major college program is educated and an educator. Either Rutgers really felt Rice needed anger management treatment or they were appeasing the PC crowd with lip service. If they felt he needed the anger management treatment for real, then there's maybe something to him taking a little too much joy in his hazing. Knight's abusive nature was well known and yet parents wanted him to coach their kids and build character.
Watching the outside the lines report fully, I do not think he put that much thought into it. At one of the camps, some 10 and 11 year olds showed up late and were wearing flip flops. He then berated them and told them that only fairies wore flip flops. I do not think they should be babied, but he would not be with them long enough for any long term plan of correcting these kids. His favorite name for one of the players was "Lithuanian ***got". Instead of anyone rallying around him or Rice getting better play out of the kid, he transferred. BlazerWookee, I agree. When using these techniques, they have to be used with the coach in control and serving a purpose other than just his venting. I do not think Rice knew that there was a line he should not cross. There are a lot of dipshits in Indiana when it comes to Knight. As long as he was winning and these insane parents got to tell everyone their kid was playing at IU, they would not care about any amount of abuse.
While I loathe Duke, look at Coach K. Ex Army officer. No wuss, right? 4 national titles. Never berates, or insults, or physically assaults his players. Good coaches always push their players, to get that extra effort, that extra success. They don't do it by destroying their humanity. No wonder students left Rutgers and the team doesn't win. Just because some unattributed person on Wikipedia says hazing is really groovy does not mean it is. That's not science, it's one person's entry. Of course, it's easy to sit comfortably at your computer and talk about how righteous it is for some OTHER person to get abused.
