Double tax refund... What to do?

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    So I signed up for direct deposit and I received my federal two days ago. I look in the mail and noticed I got a hard check for the same amount.

    Does anyone know what I should do? Should I call the IRS and tell them they sent a duplicate payment? If they want me to send it back; should I certify mail it; so I know they received it?

    The last thing I need is for the IRS to get pissed and say I owe money for their mistake.
     
  2. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    That depends. Is it large enough to make disappearing worth it?
     
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    If it were me I'd go into my local IRS office and ask to speak to somebody. I try to go in the first hour they are open and never wait more than a few minutes the few times I've had issues over the years. Don't know what they are like where you live, but here in Boise they're always surprisingly helpful and friendly.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I haven't had bad IRS agents either. Yeah I was thinking it would be the best case scenario.
     
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    Sign the back and send it to me. I'll take care of the rest.
     
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    say fuck it and blow it all on coke and hookers!
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    So, no.

    Take Mook's advice. And to answer Mook's question, people are friendly because he's in Boise. Everyone in Idaho is friendly.
     
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    You posted in on the internet. They know.
     
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    Spend it on whatever mook sells on his www site.

    Tampons or vaseline or whatever.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I wasn't planning on keeping it. I just want to make sure the IRS makes sure they know I return it.
     
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    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    It sounds like some Nigerian scam. Oh, we overpaid you, pay us back.
     
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    Cash it. Then refuse to pay it back. Then, get the rest of the prisoners to switch from being Laker fans to Blazer fans to build the fan base.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Hahahahahahahaha! One thing you don't fuck around with. The IRS!
     
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    I just know you have to be really careful with the IRS. You are guilty until you can prove your innocence.
     
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    effin business owners... whats a tax refund?
     
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    worst thing that can happen is that you have to pay it back with a small penalty and you might be able to get out of the penalty since it was their mistake. You could cash it, invest it, and hope they dont notice or pay it back when they do.
     
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    Deposit the check into a no risk, interest-bearing account (30-day CD?). When the IRS comes looking for their check, give it back to them, then go to dinner or such on the interest you had earned.
     
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    http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/jun2011/sb20110617_047470.htm

    The IRS in February sent me a check for over $7,000. It was a mistake on their part as well as a mistake on my part for using the money for car repairs and other bills. I have no choice but to pay them back and will send them $600 or $700 this month. I'm self-employed and get Social Security. Can they take my business revenues or benefits each month if they do not like what I am paying them? —T.D., Valencia, Calif.

    In certain cases, the Internal Revenue Service can levy a person's business revenue and Social Security benefits to collect past-due amounts, says David Donnelly, a CPA and tax manager at Marcum, an accounting and advisory firm in Melville, N.Y.

    In fact, the IRS has been known to empty bank accounts—without prior notice—to satisfy debt in arrears, a practice particularly dangerous for a self-employed individual who may keep several thousand dollars in an account to cover cash-flow gaps, says Peter Iannone, a CPA and director of the Los Angeles office of CBIZ MHM, an accounting and consulting firm.

    Fortunately, such practices typically take place only in extreme circumstances and after repeated attempts to collect the debt in a less intrusive manner are ignored or payment plans have been set up and then broken, Donnelly says. "If a person sets up an installment plan and complies with the terms of it, the service will not levy other sources of income."

    Rather than just sending monthly checks, call your local IRS office and speak to an agent about this situation, suggests Robert Jensen, a CPA at King, King, Alleman, Jensen in Burbank, Calif. "Explain the error you both made and then ask if you can pay it back over time via an installment agreement. Since the mistake was first made by the IRS, the IRS may be willing to work with you," he says.

    Payment Plan Request
    Follow up the phone call by filing Form 9465, a request for payment plan. For amounts less than $25,000, the IRS will automatically grant a payment plan, Iannone says. If you can send a larger chunk of the money owed with the Form 9465 as your first payment, that will show your offer is "in earnest" and will make its terms more likely to be accepted, he says.

    If the repayment formula you propose gets the total amount repaid within about 15 months, it's likely the IRS will consider that time frame reasonable.

    And, if the original mistake was entirely theirs—and did not stem from a tax return error showing that you were entitled to a refund—then the IRS may waive the penalties it usually imposes, Iannone says.

    It likely will not waive interest on the $7,000, however. "When the taxing agency discovers their mistake, they will charge interest on the amount from the date they sent the check to the date you pay back the money," says Jan Zobel, an enrolled agent based in Oakland, Calif., and author of Minding Her Own Business: The Self-Employed Woman's Guide to Taxes and Recordkeeping.

    Your dilemma is a good reminder never to deposit or cash a check from the IRS or your state government if it is unexpected. "Hold on to the check until you confirm the validity with your tax professional or with the taxing agency," Zobel says. "If it was a mistake, write 'VOID' across it and return it to the address from which it came."
     
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