Yes, team chemistry can make an average talent team great, BUT a team that is so far superior in talent like the USA is, they are making terrible decisions and fu*king up the fundementals that you can learn from Better Basketball videos. That can be covered up by good team chemistry, but look at who is playing....not exactly the best defenders in the world fundementally. Chris Paul, Wade, Bron and Melo all rely on clogging up the passing lanes rather than one on one lockdown defense, something Kobe and Billups will drastically improve.Bottom line is this team can beat every team in world by 20 if they hit some free throws, stop bi*ching to refs and defend the pick and roll better. Those things could have equalled a blowout win tonight.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Sep 1 2006, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, team chemistry can make an average talent team great, BUT a team that is so far superior in talent like the USA is, they are making terrible decisions and fu*king up the fundementals that you can learn from Better Basketball videos. That can be covered up by good team chemistry, but look at who is playing....not exactly the best defenders in the world fundementally. Chris Paul, Wade, Bron and Melo all rely on clogging up the passing lanes rather than one on one lockdown defense, something Kobe and Billups will drastically improve.Bottom line is this team can beat every team in world by 20 if they hit some free throws, stop bi*ching to refs and defend the pick and roll better. Those things could have equalled a blowout win tonight.</div>we were talking about team chemistry, not whether or not they could beat teams by 20 pts.
I know, and I'm saying you can have a team that only had 3 weeks to practice and beat a team that has been together for years by 20pts. They have more than enough talent, but simple fundementals that they stress in Europe is what failed them, not team chemistry. Free throws, complaining to ref's, taking forced shots, and simple pick and roll defense is what killed them, all of which the pro's should be masters at. As I said before, even in NBA on structured defenses and offense these players are not great man to man defenders or good with pick and roll, they play passing lanes. Kobe and Billups will make this team incredibly bette rin that regard.
pick and roll defense is not a problem with the other teams coz they play zone defense, and we all know that usa can't play zone..............now u give usa some time to learn how to play a zone defense like what they do in college (meaning practicing) then they can beat them by 20 pts. easy.this is no dream team, a good cohesive team with enough talent can beat five superstars any day.........of course we can beat them we got more talent.........you have to run some plays just like what you said.........but which team will be more effective ??? a team that's been together for years or a team that's been together for 3 weeks ???<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Sep 1 2006, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bottom line is this team can beat every team in world by 20 if they hit some free throws, stop bi*ching to refs and defend the pick and roll better. Those things could have equalled a blowout win tonight.</div>this is the boxscore USA made 20 of 34 from the ft. line and Greece went 23 of 33...........how can that be a blowout win when the score is GREECE 101 USA 95.
It's not the end of the world, USA is trying to develope that team by getting these players to commit to 2008. This year wasn't supposed to be total domination. In fact, it could be a blessing in disguise do to the fact that USA now has to qualify for the Olypmics, therefore can get some more playing experience. But they still have players out and a lot of fine tuning to do.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lakersfoelyfe @ Sep 1 2006, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>pick and roll defense is not a problem with the other teams coz they play zone defense, and we all know that usa can't play zone..............now u give usa some time to learn how to play a zone defense like what they do in college (meaning practicing) then they can beat them by 20 pts. easy.</div>USA can play zone, they play great pressure D too. Only problem is the pick and roll, sometimes they switch, sometimes they don't, and sometimes they don't know what the hell is going on. I used to go to a camp called Kevin Boyle Camp, the coach of the St Patricks Celtics. He is good friends with the coach of Villanova (he coached Mike Nardi in HS) and he said that Larry Brown benched Melo and Bron so much because they couldn't run simple defensive drills. It is a fundemental problem that you can see in their games in the NBA, and others too. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>this is no dream team, a good cohesive team with enough talent can beat five superstars any day.........of course we can beat them we got more talent.........you have to run some plays just like what you said.........but which team will be more effective ??? a team that's been together for years or a team that's been together for 3 weeks ???this is the boxscore USA made 20 of 34 from the ft. line and Greece went 23 of 33...........how can that be a blowout win when the score is GREECE 101 USA 95.</div>With a healthy Kobe and Amare on the team, it will be right up there talent wise with the Dream team come 2008. They won't be as polished as players, but they will be the best incarnation since. But they aren't as good defensively as the Dream Team, and they don't have a player like MJ who is willing to take over and can do that (Kobe will fill that void).Considering USA blew out just about everyone coming into today, and had their worst defensive performance and 2nd worst offensive performance, I do believe a team that was built in 3 weeks can be better than a team that has been together for years. The problems the USA is having is DEEPLY rooted to when they were kids, something very hard to change. Even in the NBA teams have incredible trouble stopping a Nash and (fill in blank) pick and roll. Coach K is going to have to pound into their heads by the 2008 Olympics EXACTLY what he wants on the pick and rolls or else this team will fail. I never said just the FT's would have won the game, but shooting around 60% from the line is hideous. If they shot 80%, they would have had 8 more points. If they would have stopped the pick and roll 4 times, that is 8-10 more points. That is a 10pt win right there, then what if they don't force up some of those shots in 4th quarter? Add 4-6 more points. What about some missed easy layups? Another 6pts. Add all of it up and you have a blowout. Very silly mistakes they made, and I feel a lot of it comes down to youth, fundementals and not quite the right formula in terms of the players chosen for the team.
i can't believe we lost to greece. that's got to be one of the most embarrassing things. who's on that team? NO ONE GOOD. we have the best players in the world and we still lost. this team was a million times better than our olympic joke team. we finally have guys that are elite players and we lose to a bunch of scrubs that have names that no one can pronounce. none of those guys have even played in the nba except i think that baby shaq dude, i think he got drafted a few years ago. maybe it was some other guy i dunno but regardless we should have won the gold this year. i thought we had it for sure because we were dominating teams. well that's sports, anything can happen and sometimes the scrubs come out on top. unfortanately that happened against us. :brickwall:i guess it's because we were a team that was kind of just thrown together and didn't have the chemistry that greece had. team chemistry is the most important part of a team. i should know that being a knicks fan :happy0144:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Sep 1 2006, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>USA can play zone, they play great pressure D too. Considering USA blew out just about everyone coming into today, and had their worst defensive performance and 2nd worst offensive performance, I do believe a team that was built in 3 weeks can be better than a team that has been together for years. The problems the USA is having is DEEPLY rooted to when they were kids, something very hard to change. Even in the NBA teams have incredible trouble stopping a Nash and (fill in blank) pick and roll. Coach K is going to have to pound into their heads by the 2008 Olympics EXACTLY what he wants on the pick and rolls or else this team will fail. I never said just the FT's would have won the game, but shooting around 60% from the line is hideous. If they shot 80%, they would have had 8 more points. If they would have stopped the pick and roll 4 times, that is 8-10 more points. That is a 10pt win right there, then what if they don't force up some of those shots in 4th quarter? Add 4-6 more points. What about some missed easy layups? Another 6pts. Add all of it up and you have a blowout. Very silly mistakes they made, and I feel a lot of it comes down to youth, fundementals and not quite the right formula in terms of the players chosen for the team.</div>no they, can't why didn't they play zone when they're having problems with pick n roll...........just bec u blew out every team doesn't mean that u can blow out this team too, this it's the best team they have faced so far............you said it yourself the problem is deeply rooted, so why do we keep forcing that this can be done in 3 weeks, again just like what u said coach k will have to pound their heads, so what made you think that they could just run some plays and everything should be ok, you're playing a team not a video game those guys think and makes adjustments too.your last point could've, would've that doesn't work.........what if greece could've stop the USA 4 more times in the 4th quarter, then this game could have been a blow out. THE FACT IS THEY LOST COZ THEY DIDN'T HAVE TEAM CHEMISTRY, FUNDAMENTALS IS NOT TO BLAME FOR THIS LOSS.............YOU SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING IN THE NBA IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT FUNDAMENTALS.
