Official 2013 Draft thread

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  1. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Oladipo pure potential? I don't agree at all.

    Noel didn't impress me when he was playing. No skill offensively. Great shot blocker, but not worth a top 5 pick IMO. Now to add injury history, no way.
     
  2. Run BJM

    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Wouldn't argue about Noel's lack of skill, but you're telling me there's 5 players in this draft you would take over him? We can agree to vehemently disagree about that.
     
  3. KeepOnRollin

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    Oddly enough the best thing that could happen to Noel (as far as his draft stock) may have been what did happened. He is projected by many to go 1st overall. He may have went 1st overall even if he played but he didn't get a chance to have a bad tourney like others (McLemore) and while they are moving down (ever so slightly) he is moving back up.
     
  4. Blazer4ever

    Blazer4ever Finding a Way BANNED

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    I've had Noel as the 1st pick before the injury, still think he was the most intriguing talent this year.
    I also think Withey could be our pick, I had him going 12 in my mock draft before I realized he blocks like 4 per game. Very polished, smart, inside player, is white but is not afraid of contact and yes, he blocks almost 4 BPG.
     
  5. NOVoodoo

    NOVoodoo Kickin it in 2525

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    I think Mitch McGary should probably stay another year, but I have to wonder if he sort of pulled a "Shabazz" and treated his freshman year like a waiting room for the pro's, because I actually watched most of Michigan's games this year, and I was sold on Glenn Robinson III and Trey Burke, but McGary never showed me anything. I thought he was a product of the hype machine.

    If any of ya'll follow college recruiting, the rumor was that McGary was going to try to go HS-to-pro despite the rule, because he was actually 19 at the time. Then he went to Michigan and just faded into the background. (To be fair, he sort of started his coasting before Michigan. During his senior year of high school, when he got dominated against Tilton HS and Nerls Noel, and McGary dropped from #2 in the nation in the rankings to in the 20's just because of his disinterest in that game.)

    To put it into perspective how touted of a recruit McGary was though, when he committed to Michigan over Duke, UNC, and Kentucky, he said he did so because at Michigan, he thought he could be the face of the program and leave his own legacy. That's how highly recruited he was... that he could basically say, fuck the Fab 5, I'm going to be the face of Michigan hoops.

    With that said, the talent's undeniable. He's had the best tournament of any player, regardless of their class. He shoots like Dwight from the FT line, can't consistently hit the midrange, but he's still a smarter version of DeAndre Jordan at the same age (when McGary actually shows up for the game mentally).

    I wonder about his mental approach to preparation though, just because he's underachieved from HS to Michigan. He's shown not just ability but fire and intensity in March, but you still have to second guess it knowing what he failed to do in the months prior.

    He might have been coasting during the regular season, but if you knew nothing of his history and saw him for the first time in the tournament, you'd think he'd be a sure-fire top five pick. Living in the day we live in though, with disappointing SrHS/Fr regular seasons, he's slated in the late first by most mocks. If I were drafting late lottery, I'd jump all over him.

    He's a hard one to peg, but I have to wonder what really makes Cody Zeller #9 in NBADraft.Net's mock and Mitch McGary #22.

    EDIT:

    I have to post his numbers in the tournament versus his regular season numbers, just to show the "improvement" (aka, him actually giving a shit) -

    Regular Season:

    7.4 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 0.5 apg, 0.7 bpg

    Tournament:

    1st round - 13 pts, 9 rbs
    2nd round - 21 pts, 14 rbs
    Sweet 16 - 25 pts, 14 rbs
    Elite 8 - 11 pts, 9 rbs, 2 blks, 5 stls
    Final Four - 10 pts, 11 rbs, 6 asts, 2 blks

    ^^^^

    He's clearly got more talent than he was showing during the regular season. Just watching the games, his play is even bigger than his impressive numbers. He's diving for loose balls, taking charges, and doing the dirty work. I watched him several times in Big-10 play, and he never showed shit. I thought he was the most overrated prospect Michigan ever recruited, but watching him during tournament play just makes me think he was just biding his time until the NBA.
     
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  6. illmatic99

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    Dude looks like the next Batum:

    [video=youtube;km632hL-XCo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km632hL-XCo[/video]


    Nbadrft.net has him at 18. DX at 28.
     
  7. Pinwheel1

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    I think he was hurt:

    "After struggling in his first months in Ann Arbor, McGary can diagnose what’s fueled his breakout postseason for the Wolverines, one in which he’s dealt with plantar fasciitis — inflammation of the connective tissue in the sole of the foot — through the course of the year.

    As a healthy 6-foot-10, 255-pound forward, his confidence level has gone up. His weight has gone down. He’s ditched the pizza, hamburgers, and candy that he once craved when he was sidelined with an ankle injury earlier this season.

    “It helps the motor even more,” McGary said of his weight loss, which he estimated at 20 pounds. “I’m a high-motor guy who likes to get going and just stay active. Now, with less weight and having more endurance, I’m able to stay on the court.”


    Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/Michigan/2013/04/06/McGary-shining-on-big-stage.html#WQ4DyCvZ4DpaFhS5.99
     
  8. Run BJM

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    Didn't know all that about McGary's history, didn't even know he was that highly recruited. Never would have thought his motor was in question based on the tourney games. I thought his emergence was only due to the coach's decision to make him a starter.

    As for his draft stock, he seems like a top 10ish prospect but I dunno about top 5. Hes got excellent hands and mobility for a guy his size. Not really an explosive leaper though. Not much to fall back on offensively. I question how well he'll finish at the rim in the NBA. I think his mid-range J is actually pretty decent for a freshman big man but certainly not highly advanced. Defensively I also have some doubts. Don't think he'll be a shotblocker like he is in college. Dunno if hes fast enough to keep up with a lot of NBA 4s yet at 6'10 hes sort of small to play C.

    Steve Kerr said he reminds him of David Lee. I get the comparison but Lee's smaller and much more agile and uses that to his advantage along with his great jumper. At this point I think a Nick Collison or Kris Humphries comparison is more realistic. Good size, decent athlete but not exceptional by NBA standards, hard worker, good motor, physical, skilled enough to finish off plays created by teammates but you wouldn't iso him.
     
  9. JDC

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    Thought I'd revive this thread with my draft day wishes.

    Wish #1: Select Steven Adams with our pick.
    Wish #2: Trade Meyers Leonard to Dallas for the 13th.
    Wish #3: Select C.J. McCollum

    Step a year back in development, but get a project big with a skillset that fits and a guy like C.J. who'll be able to do a lot of the things Jack is doing with Curry in GSW as a back-up 1/2.
     
  10. MickZagger

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    That sounds horrible
     
  11. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Wow. James McCadoo back to NC for junior year. Dude's stock has dropped so much.
     
  12. JDC

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    Would you care to elaborate?
     
  13. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I will. For one, I would think that a #11 from last year's draft who has shown the ability to play in this league is probably worth more than the #13 in a weaker draft. If we were trading Leonard to Dallas, I'd hope we'd get more than just their pick.

    2nd, Steven Adams at 11, 12, or 13 is a huge reach. There are probably 8 bigs that will be picked ahead of him.

    3rd, there's a decent chance that one of the top 6 wings will be available at our pick. McCollum is a consolation prize.

    Basically, your "draft day wishes" sound like shooting for mediocrity. If you're going to wish, wish big man!
     
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    Steven Adams was a surprise to put his name into this draft and that's why you see him so low on mock drafts right now. He was more highly touted coming into college than Meyers was but was brought along slowly by Jamie Dickson but had a solid ending to his year. He's massive with strength that Meyers will take years to gain if he very does and has the athleticism and hands (which are massive) to be much better on the boards. Also showed to be a better shotblocker as well.

    That's what we need out a future starting center. So with him in the mix, Meyers becomes unnecessary and you might as well cash in on his value while you can. With Damian being much like westbrook in that he'll be pushing 38 mpg every year, we need a guy behind that is capable of sliding over. C.J. has the ability to do that while also being another creative scorer on the perimeter which this team sorely needs off the bench.
     
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    Marcus Smart staying in school according to Adrian woj.
     
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    I am shocked at that. He might have gone #1 overall if magic won the draft.
     
  17. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Wow. Burke might move up to top 5 now.
     
  18. MickZagger

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    That would be a huge mistake for some team.
     
  19. santeesioux

    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    As long as it knocks a good prospect down to us, i'm ok with it.
     
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    For one, Leonard has more potential than Steven Adams. For two, McCollum does nothing for me. An undersized 2 guard with an injury history. Yay.
     

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