OT: Rubio watch

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=kiddja01&y1=1995&p2=rubiori01&y2=2012

 

lillard: 1/16 against orlando

 

http://bkref.com/tiny/oz02L

Let's talk without trolling each other. Each of these 22 year olds has advantages over the other two. Kidd was the most efficient of the three, Lillard the best shooter with the fewest turnovers and highest ORtg, and Rubio the best defensively through steals. Each is the worst at something: Rubio turns the ball over the most and is the worst shooter and fouls a lot, Lillard doesn't steal the ball or rebound well and has the worst DRtg, Kidd was pretty bad at shooting FT's.

Of the three, I'd say that Kidd is the best, followed by Lillard and Rubio neck-and-neck. It depends on what you want out of your point guard (potent offense or disrupt defense), which you choose for second place.

Ehn, they're all three pretty awesome point guards. Fighting about them doesn't mean much, either.

 

you forgot the part where ricky was coming off an ACL tear and his PnR partner has been hurt the whole year, putting a damper on his overall numbers

 

I also forgot the part where Lillard was a rookie instead of a second year player.

 

Rubio will one day be a decent player. That day is when he won't be a tpup player. Playing in that shit hole minny is holding him back.

 

Why are we watching Rubio?

 

http://www.82games.com/1213/12MIN3.HTM

Scroll down to Rubio's production, and then opponent production, and tell me he's "exactly" Jason Kidd.

 

Ricky played 42 games in a shortened season and started this season a month and a half late. he's hardly a 2nd year player

 

Then Oden is still a rookie?

 

Is it his second season? Yes? Second year player. Not that hard, bud.

 

technically
but he hasnt even played a full season or had an offseason to work on his game

 

You may want to learn the difference between a statistical anomaly and a trend, then post. Even good shooters have occasional bad shooting nights and bad shooters occasionally have good shooting nights. That doesn't change the fact that a bad shooter is a bad shooter, and Rubio is a BAD shooter.

To understand the difference, just go back and look at how these two bounced back after their poor shooting performances.

Damian Lillard:
2/10/2013 - 1/16
2/12/2013 - 10/18

Ricky Rubio:
4/6/2013 - 1/13
4/9/2013 - 0/10

Notice any differences?

One is a good shooter bouncing back from the worst game of his career. The other is a bad shooter being a bad shooter.

Rubio has only played 53 games this season, but has shot .250, or less, 18 times (and that doesn't count the game he went 0/0). That means he shot terribly in over 1/3 of his games. He's a bad shooter.

By comparison, Lillard has played 78 games and shot .250, or less, 10 times. That means he's shot terribly in about 1 of every 8 games. A good shooter, who has an occasional off night.

in his 53 games, Rubio has only shot .450, or above, 12 times. A bad shooter who occasionally has a good night.

By comparison, Lillard has shot .450, or better, 36 times. A good shooter.

The fact is, Lillard shoots considerably better than Rubio from everywhere on the court.

Damian Lillard:
.429 FG%, .370 3FG%, .847 FT%, .546 TS%, .501 eFG%

Ricky Rubio:
.355 FG%, .266 3FG%, .792 FT%, .476 TS%, .398 eFG%

Trying to compare Damian Lillard's shooting to Ricky Rubio's by citing a single game is just plain stupid. There is a sufficient body to evidence to prove Rubio is a horrible shooter and Lillard is not.

Last night, Rubio went 2-8, .250, and actually RAISED his FG% for the month of April (now all the way up to .234). That's some seriously bad shooting, but not at all unexpected to anyone who has every watched him play.

Rubio has absolutely no midrange game (and at .266 3FG, it's not like he has a long range game either). For his career, Rubio is shooting just .224 for shots from 3 to 10 feet. He's not much better on shots from 10 - 16 feet (.289). That means between 3 and 16 feet, Rubio is shooting just .254. He misses three fourths of his mid range shots. No wonder defenses don't respect his shooting. His poor shooting hurts his team - and don't try to make any lame excuses about missing his best teammate due to injuries. He shot just as poorly playing with Kevin Love last year as he is playing without him this year. He's just a bad, bad shooter.

BNM

 

Yeah, come on guys, it's not like he played professionally in Europe for several years before coming to the NBA, or he's ever had a summer to work on improving his shot. Give the guy a break.

Is the basket bigger in Europe? Maybe a little lower? Because for some reason, Rubio just can't seem to put the ball in the basket on this side of the Atlantic.

BNM

 

Triple double tonight. 5 steals away from quad double so far.

 

This is so OT, it belongs on the Wolves board. If there is such a thing.