Fucking gun control!

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by magnifier661, Apr 23, 2013.

  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Yeah, because of course the DHS needs machine guns, armored vehicles, and predator drones, right?

    Something seriously stinks with our government right now.
     
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    I find it hard to believe that ammo manufacturers wouldn't account for the "5 year contract for 1.whatever billion" rounds in their business forecasts. When was this contract signed, with whom was it signed, and why are there ammo shortages now? Seems rather convenient in light of the current gun-grabbing by the Dems and many GOPs.
     
  3. Denny Crane

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    Why is a 500% tax on ammo even believable?

    When they banned assault rifles back in the 1990s, there was a huge demand for those rifles at the stores before the ban was enacted.
     
  4. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Democrats get in trouble for just talking about wanting to ban guns. They cause price rises for just thinking about it! Why now that we are drilling more than ever for oil, the thought of that must have brought the price of oil to record lows too, right Sarah Palin?!
     
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    Why aren't the shoulder-mounted rocket-launcher manufacturers arguing that the second amendment covers them? After all, it says militia, and what good's a militia without one of those these days?
     
  7. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Well for one is that the rocket launcher companies have direct contracts with the defense industry. It's no different than when it was hard to get hummers 20 years ago.

    Only until the us government gives authorization to the manufacturers can they sell them.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Why isn't the US Government giving us Authorization??! I want an Oompa Loompa NOW daddy!
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Hahahahahah!
     
  10. BrianFromWA

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    This thread sounds like a Chris Rock set.

    [video=youtube;VZrFVtmRXrw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZrFVtmRXrw[/video]



     
  11. Natebishop3

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    2nd amendment rights are individual rights, not connected to the militia.

    Go Blazers
     
  13. Further

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    It's not believable to anyone with a brain. There are people who believe in all kinds of dumb ass shit. If you think it's believable, I'll give you 20 to 1 odds that 365 days from today there is not a 500% ammo tax. If I win, you send me $10, if you win, I'll send you $200.

    But Rush L. and other right wind pundits throw out all this sky is falling crap. Some people unfortunately only listen to those news sources and only associate with people who listen to those sources. So they start believing the crazy because it's all they hear.

    Could there be a boost in the tax, sure, it could go up to 16%, 20% or even 25% (although I doubt it) but anything above that is just not going to happen anytime soon. People are freaking out and stocking up on ammo for the apocalypse. If there is an EMP that zaps out all electronics forever, or the dollar becomes worthless, then those people will have enough ammo to kill 20,000 dear and live in the new reality, but somehow I think that's just not how it's going to shake out.
     
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    http://www.independentsentinel.com/2012/12/tax-ammo-as-if-it-were-cigarettes/

    On Dec. 13, 1999, former Chicago Defender staff writer Chinta Strausberg, wrote an article headlined “Obama unveils federal gun bill,” in which he reported that then-Illinois state Sen. Obama, who was running for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, proposed “to increase the federal taxes by 500% on the sale of firearm, ammunition [sic] – weapons he says are most commonly used in firearm deaths.” [Then-senator Obama never put through any legislation taxing ammo, which was politically wise]

    According to Strausberg’s report, the proposal was made at an anti-gun rally held at the Park Manor Christian Church, 600 E. 73rd St., headed by the Rev. James Demus.

    Also in the report, Obama is said to have proposed charging a gun owner with a felony if the owner’s firearm was stolen from his residence and caused harm to another person provided that weapon was not securely stored in that home. This proposal coincides with his opposition to the self-defense exemption when he was a state senator.

    (sorry, not Rush Limbaugh like you claim)
     
  15. Denny Crane

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    There's also some suspicion that the government is buying up lots of ammo to cause a shortage and thus increase the prices.
     
  16. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Guns don't kill people. People don't kill people. Bullets kill people.
     
  17. Denny Crane

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    You have it all wrong. Pressure cookers kill people.
     
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    I never claimed that Obama never wanted such a thing, I said it would never happen. Two very different things. And the fear does come from Rush et.al. taking that thing from the past and waving it around as if Obama 1) still wants to do that (he may or may not, no evidence) or 2) is able to actually get a 500% tax. It simple will not happen. No chance. regardless of Obama at some point in the past being in favor of it. If he announced today that he wanted the tax (which he won't) there is no chance that he could get anything close. I said earlier I would give you 20 to 1 odds, lets double it. I'll give you 40 to 1 odds. I would go higher but I never bet an amount that I can't afford to lose regardless of the risk. how bout it, 10 bucks to 400 bucks.

    By the way, it's not just the right wing that does this shit, they do it more, but there are a lot of people at msnbc and huff post that do the same basic sky is falling shit to get the liberals going crazy of something that will never happen.
     
  19. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    I have a comeback for that, but I don't think it's been long enough yet...
     
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    I think gun owners are following the news rather closely and they know the anti gun crowd is waiting for any sky is falling opportunity try to ban guns. Since they can't actually do that, they're looking for other things that achieve the same effect. A 500% tax on bullets would do it. If not a 500% tax, they'll figure something else out.

    So people are stocking up with the expectation what they buy will be grandfathered in. As assault rifles were back in the 1990s when the ineffective ban was tried.

    I seriously doubt that much of a fraction of these people buying guns and ammo give a shit about what Rush Limbaugh says, or anyone else for that matter. They see actual democrats and their constituents and guys like Pierce Morgan and other left wing announcers pushing for a ban on all guns.
     

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