Cavaliers dreaming of a LaMarcus Aldridge trade...

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    I already did. Out of post possessions, Aldridge had a better points per possession than Jefferson did.
     
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    You gave us points per possession. I thought you had more than that. I guess not.
     
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    So you don't think it's at all relevant? What more would you be looking for, exactly? Showing a simple FG% at the rim doesn't do anything, since a fast break dunk, back door cut, etc. result in shots at the rim that were not created out of a post up. Posting the two up, that stat shows you're going to have more success, and score more with Aldridge than Jefferson.
     
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    I think stats are relevant. However, there's a lot more than stats in the game. I'm asking you to convince me.
     
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    Perhaps you can provide a link. That would be a beginning.
     
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    You think Jefferson is one of the better post players. Am assuming that's primarily off of just watching him play, seeing him in the post. I dunno what sort of "convincing" you're looking for, and I really don't care to, I dunno, comb through game film to show post moves or whatever it might be. It's a fairly simple stat to look at. I can say so and so is one of the better 3 point shooters. If you said well a guy with a higher percentage is better, and show me what he puts in on a per possession basis as being better than player X I named, what else am I needing to see? Clips of his stroke? On a simple per possession basis, if you post up Al Jefferson 100 times, and post up Aldridge 100 times, you're going to end up with more points out of Aldridge. Maybe scoring more out of the post doesn't specifically make him a better post player.
     
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    Send the link you're using. That way I can gauge the stats you're interpreting.
     
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    So is Meyers Leonard.:chestbump:
     
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    Thank you, RR7. I will take a look at those stats and reply later when I have more time this evening.
     
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    And I know tone always gets misconstrued online. Not trying to be a dick at all, or "challenge" your comment about Jefferson as a post option. Was just trying to comment that it's a widely held belief, deservedly so, that Jefferson is one of the best post options in the league, and yet Aldridge, for all of the complaints about him, was a better option down there.
     
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    Actually they look quite similar when looking at the stats presented on that site for this season.

    I also noticed the same thing when looking at the stats on NBA.com (Player shots - distance: 5 ft range and 8 ft range).
     
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    The fans that think Aldridge is WAY better than Jefferson are delusional. If Aldridge is better, its just by a little bit.
     
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    You kept asking for his source, so finally he just gave you the front page of a random stat site. If he had done any research, he would have given you a more specific page. He's just being loyal to the player who's already here, no analytical reason.
     
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    Al Jefferson is going to be on his 4th team in 8 seasons next year

    No big deal
     
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    Tyson Chandler bounced around before being an important piece of the Mavs championship and I would love for him to be a Blazer.

    Was Boston supposed to say no to the KG trade, which won them a championship?

    Minnesota traded him since his skills overlapped with Kevin Love, but cannot fault a player that gets traded by Kahn.

    Utah just has too many similar players.
     
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    Tyson Chandler plays defense, and it took him a while to figure out he wasn't going to be David Robinson or Hakeem on offense. Al Jefferson is an undersized center who is literally one of the worst post defenders in the league.
     
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    Aldridge is way better on the defensive end. However I think an Aldridge/Jefferson combo would work better than a lot of people seem to think. True neither one is a rim protector but how many really good rim protectors are there in the NBA? This wouldn't be my first choice of centers to go after but it would be an interesting combo.
     
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    When you shoot like Aldridge that's fine. Jefferson overall shot 1% better from the field.

    Anyone who thinks Aldridge/Jefferson would be an interesting combo didn't learn a whole lot from watching Aldridge/Hickson.

    We need a big center who focuses on defense and rebounding and who's hopefully decent at both. That's it. We don't need interesting.
     

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