http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...uilty-in-obama-clinton-ballot-petition-fraud/ S.O.B. shouldn't even be in the Whitehouse.
You're free to impeach him. The people to whom this matters most already think he isn't a citizen anyway, so this won't change much.
So just to clarify, he shouldn't have had some petition signatures in Indiana. Which then equates to him not being president... I think I'm missing a few steps.
Oddly, when republicans push for voter ID cards, democrats don't want any part of it. (But background checks to buy guns, they do. Hypocrites). Anyhow, they tell me there's no need because there just isn't election fraud going on. My response is, "how are you going to catch it?" Well, here's a rare case where they got caught. It's not the individual voter who goes and votes twice or votes when not legit that's the problem, it's being on the voter roles for the Democratic Party chairmen to use on petitions and the like. Or to vote on their behalf in one swoop (a list of 10,000 registered voters magically vote!).
the issue republicans fear is people voting for someone else, hence the "need" for voter ID. This was not an actual vote. Yes it's wrong, yes it's illegal. Where is your outrage about the woman just convicted of committing voter fraud, not petition fraud, RIGHT IN YOUR OWN STATE?
I'm not sure I agree with republicans about the ID issue. But they're not the hypocrites on this issue.
So, if Obama isn't on an Indiana ballot, how does it effect every other state or his ability to ultimately become president? It's a serious question, and I don't doubt I'll look like an idiot later for asking it, but I'm a bit slow today (after a late, late night of fun).
It wouldn't necessarily. However, if the issue had been exposed at the time it could have had an impact on the election.
Oh yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it would have had a big impact. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing another piece of the puzzle - thanks.
Voter/petition fraud happens all the time, and it happens by individuals in BOTH parties. This isn't a case of just "omg the democrats are so curropt" both parties are curropt. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
Oh yeah. If not for a couple dozen signatures on a petition, the Indiana Democratic primary would have been held absent the top 2 candidates, Obama and Clinton. This would have led to a national McCain victory. Yup. Yesterday I read this article. When this Clackamas crook was busted a few months ago, articles noted she was a Republican. Fewer and fewer articles have mentioned it as time goes on. The Oregonian carefully kept her party entirely out of this article. http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2013/04/oregon_city_woman_gets_90_days.html
I'm not that great at searches, but when I Bing/Google 'Democratic party Chairman Butch Morgan Jr. was found guilty **' I see where FOX reported the story. I don't see MSNBC, CNN, NBC, ABC or ABC. I fact that it happened as bad. The fact that the press turns a blind eye to it is a major (maybe THE major) reason this country is going down the shitter. Go Blazers
Under state law, presidential candidates need to qualify for the primary ballots with 500 signatures from each of the state's nine congressional districts. Indiana election officials say that in St. Joseph County, which is the 2nd Congressional district, the Obama campaign qualified with 534 signatures; Clinton's camp had 704. Prosecutors say that in President Obama's case, nine of the petition pages were apparently forged. Each petition contains up to 10 names, making a possible total of 90 names, which, if faked, could have brought the Obama total below the legal limit required to qualify. Prosecutors say 13 Clinton petitions were apparently forged, meaning up to 130 possibly fake signatures. Even if 130 signatures had been challenged, it would have still left Mrs. Clinton with enough signatures to meet the 500 person threshold. The result would have been Clinton would have still been on the ballot and won Indiana's primary which she did anyway, but she would have gained 34 more delegates. http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2008&fips=18&f=0&off=0&elect=1 It would have left her needing only to flip 16 delegates somewhere and Obama would have looked incompetent for not getting on the primary. http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?f=0&year=2008&elect=1 It's certainly feasible that it robbed Hillary of the presidency.
