Obamacare’ Poll Finds 42% of Americans Unaware It’s Law

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  1. DaLincolnJones

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  3. MARIS61

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    So far it's been neither complete Armageddon nor a panacea. Maybe a lot of Americans just haven't noticed it impacting them personally, and so assume it got repealed.

    So far personally the only changes I've noticed is that:
    1. My employer issued a new report with our annual health care re-enrollment that better outlined costs/benefits. I glanced at it but didn't pour over it.
    2. My own rates stayed the same as last year.
    3. A friend of mine in Colorado who was uninsured had a badly broken ankle, and she says it was covered under Obamacare and sounds pretty grateful.
    4. Another friend said he got a small check back from their insurance company that I assume was for the whole profit capping rebate thing.

    I realize the mandate, the exchanges and the Medicaid expansion don't fully roll out until 2014. I suspect then a lot more people will notice. But so far I find it pretty easy to understand why a lot of Americans haven't noticed it.
     
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    What boggles my mind, is that companies are now keeping employees under 30 hours a week to avoid paying them healthcare.
     
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    I personally kow of dozens of workers who have lost full time jobs to part time status over Obamacare and it is widely reported this is happening across the nation. But that's ok as they can then be on various forms of welfare.

    Also, when employers, like mine, have to start paying extra monies for providing health care for employees I think there will be a dramatic shift that pushes more to Obamacare.
     
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    That there are such greedy, heartless business people in the world.
     
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    Wow.

    I don't understand where your idea comes from that businesses should exist to provide jobs, benefits, healthcare, etc and not for profit.

    That boggles my mind.
     
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    Dang. You personally know more than 24 people who went part time this year, and the employers made that move purely because of Obamacare requirements (which won't actually hit for another 7 months)? Yikes. You know a lot of people, and have an amazing amount of insight into the inside thinking of a lot of employers.

    I know one guy who was moved to part-time this year. It's hard to say if this particular instance was because of Obamacare, though, because the reduction in hours is a rising trend going back about 15 years. It seems to have increased somewhat from the specter of Obamacare, though.
     
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    As a matter f fact, I do. Mostly in retail and restaurant businesses. Two of the restaurants my wife & I go to have actually shut down 1/2 of the seating permanently and moved nearly all workers to part time.

    I know you like to think you are never wrong and make fun of people who don't lock step with you, but facts are facts whether you like them or not.
     
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    I haven't paid attention to Obamacare and probably won't as long as my employer continues to cover my health/dental/vision insurance (and my kids', too). So I have little idea about it, other than I do know it's going into effect.
     
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    Taxes are going up as well.
     
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    Our company wanted us to pay $90 a week for healthcare and were discussing it over the contract negotiations. The Teamsters won and we aren't paying a dime. UPS couldn't justify making record profit and now wanting us to pay for healthcare when we never have. They're also proposing a $5 wage increase over the life of the contract.

    I <3 Unions.
     
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    I know this. But this is a thread on Obamacareless. Not taxes.

    Besides.... My taxes should go down with the new house, bigger mortgage, etc. for the record. My monthly payment just doubled, but it's worth it and I can afford it.
     
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    Clearly you don't know this if you think those taxes aren't about Obamacare and people not realizing it is in effect since those tax raises were in the bill and specific to obamacare.

    Neato. Now this has nothing to do with obamacare.
     
  20. mook

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    Hey, I'm not making fun of you. I just found your comment a little unlikely.

    I haven't seen any local restaurants here cut back, but I admit I don't eat out much. If you say so, though, and the management says it's about Obamacare and not changing market conditions (with a lot of unemployment people tend to eat out less) it's cool.

    If I were running a restaurant right now I'd probably employ everybody at 20-30 hours. It's more socially acceptable for employers to do so these days, unemployment rates make it easier to do so, and you aren't paying staff during the usual 1pm-4pm slow times.

    Personally, I don't think the problem is that people are working less. I actually think that might be a good thing. What's the point in all this progress if you are working more? I think as things become more automated, people should work less, get paid more, and have health care provided as a right. Essentially, we do everything we can to enable people to pursue happiness. Seems like a noble goal for our society to work toward. How we achieve such an outcome is the really hard part.
     
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