Wilt chamberlin or bill russell

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  1. Dmoney

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    who do you think was better?
     
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    if you are talking if they played one on ones wise thenChamberlain.Hes done it all im sure bill russel would lose if they played a game. Chmaberlain's offense is just to good and unstoppable.If we were playing a game id pick Bill RussellBill Russell was the better team player. His desire to win was unbelieveable. Chamberlain will win stat wise but in the Russell takes it all.
     
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    Wow, I think Wilt was far more versitile, but really, you can't go wrong with either one.
     
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    Hmmm....If I was to have one of them on my team for a single regular season game, it'd be Wilt. But if I was to build a dyansty around one, it'd be Russel. One of greatest defenders of all time and was a true leader and winner.
     
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    If you count leadership and championships than Bill was better, but if you are just talking about the better player then I'll have to go with Wilt. Wilt was a far better offensive player than Bill, and for that I will give him the nod. Bill was better at defense, and they were tied at rebounding probably. But the 30 ppg to 15 ppg difference gives Wilt the nod imo. Also, Wilt was the most dominate player ever and he scored 50 ppg in a season, and even led the league in apg one year [​IMG]
     
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    if you want a dominant big man then you pick wilt...but if you a team player and an excellent defender then pick bill...BUT I PICK WILT SIMPLY BECAUSE NO ONE COULD STOP HIM!
     
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    Here's an idea: Have Wilt start and have Bill Russell come off the bench.or, Have Wilt play center and move Russell over to the PF spot. Talk about a badass front line.
     
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    Wilt just lacked that killer instinct which grew as he got older. The only thing Bill russel has over wilt is leadership and defense. Everything else goes to wilt. Their offensive games are not to be put in the same sentence. Both by eye witnesses averged around 8 blocks a game. Not to mention Wilt averaged more rebounds in his career. Not to mention Wilt averaged 8.6 assists in one season. Not to mention Wilt's 55 rebound record came against Russel.
     
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    I love how everyone was saying the exact same things. I would have to choose Russell.We are talking about a guy that won 11 rings! How many did Wilt win? Oh yeah 2. Russell was the guy that basically started the Celtics dynasty and is the most dominant big man ever on defense. Averaged like 22 rpg over his career and even had like 50 rebounds in one game. Now people might say Wilt was better in rebounds but that can really only be argued during the regular season. In the Finals Russell once averaged nearly 30 rpg in the series which is still the record.He's a 12 time all star and won the MVP award 5 times. He was also a bigger help on offense than it seems. A lot of the Celtics points came from Russell pulling down the rebound and giving the outlet pass to Bob Cousy which started the Celtics deadly fast break. He's also one of the best shot blockers of all time. Really though the best way to put it at is what you want. A true champion and player with a winners mentality or a the most dominant player on offense of all time. I would want rings over dominance and I'm pretty sure every gm in the league would want the same.
     
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    I can understand maybe shotblocking and defense. But offense? If you call MDE on offense, you are seriously mistaken. Russell himself said that he was nowhere close to Chamberlain in talent.Maybe Russell had the better team and was a better leader, but Chamberlain was matched by no one in his era in terms of individual talent.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hang Eleven @ Sep 10 2006, 07:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can understand maybe shotblocking and defense. But offense? If you call MDE on offense, you are seriously mistaken. Russell himself said that he was nowhere close to Chamberlain in talent.Maybe Russell had the better team and was a better leader, but Chamberlain was matched by no one in his era in terms of individual talent.</div>I don't think anyone here has said Russell was more talented than Chamberlain. You would have to have mental problems to think that.
     
  12. Michael Bryant

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    I'm taking Wilt, he was able to give his team 30 points and 30 rebounds if you needed him to. Russ, is an outstanding defender but offensively can't do what Wilt did. Also, Wilt was just as good as Russ, so you kinda get more bang for the buck with the Dipper.
     
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    I find it hilarious that so many people are saying Russell was better than Wilt. Russell has the rings but he also had the supporting cast. Russell played with 7 Hall of Famers!
     
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    Here's some info on the two when they played against eachother:Played a total of 142 games against one another. Russell's team won 85 times; Wilt's team won 57 times.Wilt averaged 27.8 ppg and 27.8 rpg (bpg weren't kept back in the day).Russell averaged 14.5 ppg and 23.7 rpg.Now, those stats won't really make anyone say, "Oh yeah, Wilt has to be the man!" Especially seeing that in Russell's case, it was the team that made the difference.However, here's some info on their careers:<you><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">Bill Russell</span></you>NBA championship team: 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, and 1969.Elected to Hall of Fame {1975}Regular Season Honors:NBA Season MVP: 1958, 1961, 1962, 1963, and 1965.All-NBA First Team: 1959, 1963, 1965.All-NBA Second Team: 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1964, 1966, 1967, and 1968.1969 NBA All-Defensive First Team12-time NBA All-StarNBA All-Star Game MVP {1963}<you><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">Wilt Chamberlain</span></you>NBA championship team: 1967 and 1972.Elected to Hall of Fame {1978}Regular Season Honors:NBA Season MVP: 1960, 1966, 1967 and 1968.1960 NBA Rookie of the Year.All-NBA First Team: 1960, 1961, 1962, 1964, 1966, 1967 and 1968.All-NBA Second Team: 1963, 1965 and 1972.All-Defensive First Team: 1972 and 1973.13-time NBA All-Star.NBA All-Star Game MVP {1960} Note: He was a rookie.Overall, I would go with Wilt Chamberlain. Bill Russell was backed up by about 6 or 7 Hall of Famers, including Bob Cousy and John Havlicek. Wilt Chamberlain rolled solo. Imagine if Wilt was in the Celtics instead of Russell... What a difference, huh? There's no denying that Wilt would have added so much more offense. Also, Wilt had about equal defense as Bill Russell. Both are arguably two of the greatest Centers of all time, but I believe Wilt is about a whole notch better than Russell.Here's a challenge for you all:Name another player who could score 50.4 ppg and get like 27 to 28 rpg.Oh, you can't? Hmm... Seems like there's only one Wilt "The Stilt/Big Dipper" Chamberlain.
     

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