I just want to thank you for paying a portion of my solar installation. Running my A/C in the hot hot high desert can be overwhelming. I want to thank all of you tax payers!
For neanderthals. The unmatched pollution from mining and burning coal for energy may be the most successfully destructive act by man in the history of the earth. Rather than worry about nukes in Iran or N. Korea we should be bombing every coal plant in the world, including our own.
I know first-hand many businesses that recouped all of their investments into solar panels within 5 years of installation. The Federal credit, Oregon BETC, and some trust rebate......... between all of that, many had recouped at least 50-60% of costs within the first year of investment. My company recouped the cost within just over 3 years. Thank you, taxpayers. Of course, the OR and trust rebates the companies used have now expired, so I'm not totally on the up and up about what's available, at least state-wise. I looked into it for our house. Unfortunately, I would have to cut down a few large trees before adding solar panels for maximum efficiency, so that just adds to my investment. Even with several gas appliances (furnace, cook range, clothes dryer, water heater, fireplace, etc) our electrical bill is $300-400/month, so anything I could do to decrease that would be fantastic. But for home energy, I just am not sold on the solar option.
Nice. We spend a bit of time in Palm Springs and Apple Valley areas during the summers. It is a weeeeee bit hot out there that time of year. But fantastic during the winters (well, at least during the days).
And I want to thank you for paying to rebuild my house if it is destroyed in a flood. Without the poor paying the insurance claim, I might not consider living in a flood zone.
The Antelope Valley (Lancaster, Palmdale, Quartz Hill) has a terrible winter. Usually in the high to low 30's and windy. It definitely isn't the place you want to be during the winter. Palm Springs and even apple valley has great winters!
Blah blah. Coal is still 210 times more efficient than solar. When we were cavemen, we spent our time gathering food and energy. We have progressed to the point where our food gathering is a trip to the grocery store and we pay just a few of us to gather all the energy we all need. The result is leisure time. I am not interested in having to gather energy.
True. Although I'm still sort of waiting to see if this tech in particular matures. http://www.renewableenergyworld.com...el-could-generate-renewable-energy-soon-53714
They do, but the nights can dip into some low temps. I was shocked when we were in Apple Valley for a few days and it was 80 degrees during the day and 36-39 for lows. That's one helluva swing.
Relative to what solar does now, it is a nice breakthrough. A 10% improvement. To compete with coal's efficiency, though, they need a 21000% improvement, no?
Wasn't trying to make a case, just thought the new news was pertinent to the discussion. I'd also be curious to follow the material and manufacturing process in China for their cheap panels to see if they manage to do more harm in building them than they'd payback over their lifespans.
