The courts ruled that these groups can, but the 501(c)4 was intended for organizations like the fire department. I don't blame the courts for siding on the side of free speech. Anyone who thinks american crossroads is purely interested in lobbying for or against specific issues only has their head up their ass. They spent money on at least 20 candidates' campaigns, which is far beyond "endorsing" candidates. I'm all in favor of american crossroads being able to do whatever it wants in terms of raising money and spending on campaigns. I'm not in favor of them cheating the tax codes for benefits not deserved or intended.
The law doesn't say, "purely interested". So, yeah, when you make up criteria, then accuse groups of breaking your made up rules, .... ummm what's that called again?
How do you know what the law says? http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/w...ere-created-for-the-purpose-of-hiding-donors/
Keep spinning, Denny. Not even Obama supporters are going to be defending this as more gets uncovered. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/18/us/politics/irs-scandal-congressional-hearings.html?hp&_r=2&
• 28 USC 7414: willful oppression under color of law related to revenue laws • 18 USC 241 & 242: conspiracy against rights and deprivation of rights under color of law • The Hatch Act: prohibits civil servants from engaging in political activity There are three potential criminal activities, right there. Who in the administration knew about this, and why did it continue???
Neat. I google for "28 USC 7414" - there's a handful of hits, all from the free republic forums you must have copied and pasted from. No such law. Nice try. 18 USC 241 is a civil rights statute and doesn't apply. 501(c)4 status is not a right. And I see no political activity that's gone on by public servants (Hatch Act). Next?
The IRS giving classified information to Pro Publica is a criminal act. What's neat is watching you spin this and look foolish in doing so.
Simple question, Denny. Do you trust the IRS to fairly administer claims and procedures under ObamaCare?
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Find me the statute that says the IRS people committed a crime. The only thing I've seen is "PUBLISHING" the information might be. IRS didn't publish it. I'm not the one here quoting some idiot on the highly partisan free republic forums without doing any fact checking to assure there's any truth to it.
I think ObamaCare is a disaster no matter who administers claims and procedures. Democrats are struggling with trying to blame the IRS for messing up on the one hand and then believing the IRS is qualified and good enough to entrust with ObamaCare.
That's good enough for me. I'll wait for more information to surface, but considering the administration knew about this in June 2012, and Obama claimed he didn't know about it until last Friday, we need to know more about what the President knew, when he knew it, and if he didn't know it, why?
Assume he knew EVERYTHING you think he did in June 2012. Then what? I'm not seeing anything even close to an impeachable offense. Not a crime, either. I mean, the guy got to fly Air Force One to every one of his campaign stops. Romney had to pay his own way. Rank has its privileges.
If they have to dig through the law books to find some obscure law that maybe was broken, I don't see why they need to be so upset about it.
I don't think he knew anything, but you seem to a have a major glitch if you're incurious and battling finding out more. I wouldn't call you a Libertarian.
If you don't see why specifically targeting groups and individuals by the IRS is not worth being upset about, then I think you're just protecting your website here. You're a fraud, IMO.
Dude, I'm fine with the investigations and all. Getting to the truth is important. They need to figure out how fucked up the 501(c)4 thing is and fix it. And then we all can see how incompetent government is so as a whole we may trust it less. And the ramifications for the 2014 elections are big.
It wasn't fair, but they don't have to be fair. Again, the people voted for these people so they go what they voted for. And it's all been exposed. Terrific! Of course it bothers me what they did. But I'm no fool who goes around claiming he's Nixon Act II or that impeachment is in order, etc. In fact, the Nixon crap is going to hurt any chance of Democrats really rolling up their sleeves to get on board keeping the lame duck in a box so he can't cause any more harm than he has already.
