IRS Targeted Conservative Groups

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  1. Denny Crane

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/17/foolish-but-was-it-crime-investigations-into-irs-will-probe-whether-laws-were/

    Fox News questions whether anything illegal was done. They mention this statute:

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7212

    But it talks about intimidation of IRS officials by force or threat of force. It doesn't cover improper activities by the IRS.
     
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    Hot air, since you can't produce what crime was supposedly committed.
     
  3. maxiep

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    I'm choosing to believe my friends, who are actually lawyers for the government (one federal, one state). You believe what you wish.
     
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    I believe your friends if you can come up with the statute they think was criminally violated.
     
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    Denny, you may find this hard to grasp, but I don't care what you believe.
     
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    Well there's lawyers and legal scholars looking for what possible crime was committed.

    At least they point at the specific statutes that are at least a huge stretch to be claimed as the laws broken.
     
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    Your linked Washington Post (read, Liberal, Democrat, Obama loving mainstream media) story, opines that,

    "probably nobody will go to jail", over the IRS scandal.

    Not because no crimes have occurred, and not because no laws have been broken, and not because no regulations have been violated, but because Washington scandals rarely lead to jail. Which is basically true.

    Unlike Denny, who is absolutely sure no crimes have occurred, the Washington Post is taking a wait and see stance.

    The rest of the story list several laws that might have been broken (or did you miss that part Denny?):

    Additionally, we have the potential improper release of confidential tax records, which is against numerous IRS regulations and a law indicating 5 years jail time.

    Additionally, we have the potential of violating the Watergate era law if a smoking gun implicating the White House in directing the IRS to target political "enemies" is uncovered.
     
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    Again, what laws were broken, and by who? You're so certain, you must have even one tiny little fact to support what you say, right?
     
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    The path to a special prosecutor is starting in the ... Senate? Seems as if some Dems may want to keep their seats...

     
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    If you don't like your own link, there is nothing I can do for you.

    You seem beyond help at this point.

    Why you have taken these strange positions, which is an odd combination of head-in-the-sand naiveté and Obama Admin shills talking points 101. Look at quotes from these folks, your posts parrot their bullshit.

    What crimes occurred, you say? If there isn't videotape of the actual killing, then there is no crime, seems to be your position. When the results and common sense scream law-breaking (at the least), even to some Democrats.

    We have scandal "handling" from the Obama Admin, instead of full disclosure and transparency, which is what is done when there is something to hide, we have IRS officials running for the exits, hiding, pointing fingers, blaming lowers, blaming superiors, claiming incompetence and ignorance, which are all actions that law-breakers would take and are defenses of charges of law-breaking.

    These folks are all acting guilty and all taking the actions one would take if guilty of breaking laws. These same actions are likely career destroyers. You don't destroy a career unless you have little choice. When there is smoke.
     
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    My link says it's near impossible to prove any crime was committed. It's a HUGE reach.

    May as well add murder to the imaginary crimes. It's just as hard to prove that happened as part of this scandal.
     
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    You're claim about murder is absurd on its face. No one has confessed to "manslaughter", which the equivalent to what has happened at the IRS. They have already confessed to wrongdoing. They are the ones claiming their wrongdoing was bad, but does not rise to breaking the law.

    What the hell do you expect them to say?

    After violating civil rights and hiding those actions for years, you believe everything they now say.

    Denny: I know these folds lied before, but NOW can trust every word because, because, because.
     
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    There you go again.

    Making stuff up.

    It doesn't say "near impossible".
     
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    What's the title of the article?

    What do the last four paragraphs say?
     
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    Here come the lawyers...

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-top-irs-official-fifth-amendment-20130521,0,6645565.story

     
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    The government has unlimited resources to prosecute these people. They have to fund their defense on their own. if they're not independently wealthy, taking the 5th is a good way to keep their lawyer bills down.
     

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