Blazers rebuffing Cavs' offers for Aldridge

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  1. handiman

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    The actual injury didn't look nearly as bad as that picture makes it look. I can bend my leg close to that position just by rotating the hip. You can't really tell how he's positioned with the baggy shorts and calf sleeves.
     
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    I'd think seriously on this offer.
     
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    Good shit. Poor Cavs. That #1 isn't close to being worth the same as it would be in any other year.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Yes! Let's build a strong bench at the cost of a weaker starting lineup. lol
     
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    are you aware he weighed in at just over 200 pounds at the pre-draft? He's basically got LA's frame minus 40-50 lbs. & of course with that busted wheel. Even if his rehab is going well, its going to be years before he's beefed up enough to defend NBA Centers. With the depth chart you listed, next season would really really suck... like 20 Wins bad... but another dip into the 2014 lotto might set this team up for contending down the road. A whole lot of variables would have to go right though

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    People are strange man. They would rather downgrade a superstar for a player that had a serious injury and less than 50lbs. on Aldridge.

    The scenarios I see are ridiculous. Any trade involving Aldridge better net us two up and coming all star potential or a allstar. It's that simple.

    Even then, losing out only low post scorer will kill any diversity for Lillard to do his magic. Remember what happened to Rose in the playoffs? Teams bunkered in the paint and ran double and triple teams on rose. Basically took the entire team out of the game.

    We need a low post scorer and Aldridge is one of the best at it right now.
     
  7. BrianFromWA

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    Noel was playing at a higher weight than Davis was last year. He dropped weight for recovery from his surgery. (The Anti-Oden plan)
     
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    Just to gauge where I'm at here, which of you would not trade LMA straight up for Davis, if that was somehow possible?

    Edit: I'm not saying that Noel is Davis or anything else. Simple question. If you were GM and NOP called you and said "Davis for LMA". That's all.
     
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    Don't forget that our pick is likely going to Charlotte next year.
     
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    What relevance, though, is Davis to Cleveland trading their pick?
     
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    Noel isn't close to davis as a prospect. Numbers in college don't tell the whole story, Thomas Robinson had better numbers then Davis last year and wasn't even considered as a player who could oust davis from the #1 spot.

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    You think LaMarcus is a superstar and a low post scorer?
     
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    Aldridge is one of the top post scorers in the league, yes.
     
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    I would not consider LaMarcus a super star, but I don't think there are too many players who are better low post scorers. He may not do it as much as you like, but the threat is always there. Personally I prefer an offense to run through the guards, but to do that you have to have a low post threat. LaMarcus is better than most. He just also happens to be a pretty good medium range shooter as well.

    So if you get rid of him, which I am not totally against, you have to replace him in order to get to the next level of success. Guys like JJ and Millsap are not going to cut it.
     
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    The perception that LA doesn't score in the paint has swept through this board for some reason. He shoots about half his shots outside the paint and the rest inside it. I doubt there are more then a handful of players in the nba that take more shots in the paint then LMA.
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    You would be wrong.
    He actually shot 38% of his shots inside the paint, and 61% of his shots outside. (1% 3pt)
    His make % is 57% in the paint, and 43% outside.
    He had the most shots 9-22 feet in the NBA (804; 130 more than #2 on the list) and he shot 42.7% on them.
    He was #37 in total shots 9feet and in--more than "a handful" shot more. Among them? Tristan "Can't hold LMA's jock" Thompson and JJ Hickson.

    The perception that LMA plays like LaMonster more than a few times a year is sweeping through this board and affecting people in weird ways. :cheers:
     
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    Of course, you do know there's a difference between just getting points in the paint, and scoring from the post. Hopefully by watching the Blazers, and JJ this season, you know that. Tipping in an offensive rebound does not make one a good post scorer. Cutting to the basket and getting a good pass does not make one a good post scorer. SO just showing shot charts to show how good a post scorer is doesn't give you a real accurate measurement. Tristan Thompson's most effective use as an offensive player was on ORBs, transition, and cuts to the basket. 2nd worst was in the post. He's actually very similar offensively to JJ Hickson, in that they're both kind of hustle/"garbage" players. Of course, not a garbage player, but doing the garbage work to get scores. There's a place for those guys for sure. And maybe both will turn into great post scorers as they age. Doubtful, but possible. But neither are even good post scorers.
     
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    I'm not saying they're great interior players. I was refuting Rhal's point that only a handful of people who take more shots in the paint than LMA. There are 36. Of which, Thompson and Hickson are two of them. That's all.
     
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    And how much of that has to do with Aldridge or the coach? I seem to remember the outside shots were very heavy in the beginning of the season and he started banging more in the paint mid to late season. He had some monster games the last two months and publicly said he's going to work on his low block game this summer.

    Seems that Aldridge knows in order for his team to be successful; he needs to live in the block. And who better on our team than a dedicated post player like Aldridge?
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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