Blazers rebuffing Cavs' offers for Aldridge

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    You also said it was shown LMA wasn't a true post player, so was just curious what a true post player actually is.
     
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    I would guess someone that plays in the most more than they play outside the post. Aldridge is capable of playing in the post, but do you think that he scores or attempts most of his shots in the post?
     
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    Aldridge takes about 34% of his shots out of the post. That's almost double the percentage he takes in any other sort of offensive play ran for him(iso, P&R, spot up, transition, etc.). So while I'd love to see it higher, I 1) appreciate the space he creates for Lillard by not ALWAYS being in the post, and 2) recognize that he is posting up more often than any other play. So I wouldn't say he's primarily a spot up shooter. I wouldn't say he's primarily a PnR/pop big. I wouldn't say he's primarily an ISO big. And though I wouldn't say he's primarily a post up big, he's doing that more often than other plays.
     
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    Which NBA who averages 20ppg scores most of their points in the post?
     
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    http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchar...false&display-mode=performance&zone-mode=zone
    Thats his shot distribution from this year, He does take more shots outside the paint then in it but he shoots quiet a bit more from the 12f area then I thought he did. LMA Also gets into the low block all the time and then passes it to an open 3 shooter, i'd like to see a statistic detailing where he often passes the ball from and their subsequent % from said places.
     
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    Along the same lines, would you consider Wes Matthews "primarily" a spot up shooter?
     
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    All I said was that he isn't a true post player.... which is someone, I think, who gets most of their points/attempts in the paint. I didn't say he was incapable of playing in the post, or that he's a bad player. I think the current rules in the NBA favors wing players. :dunno:
     
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    For points in the paint. Big difference. David Lee posts up a little over half as much as LaMarcus. He scores in the paint off of PnR, cuts to the basket, and ORBs
     
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    Most, assuming, meaning more than half. Am then curious, again, who you consider a true post player?
     
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    Sam Perkins. Channing Frye. Rasheed Wallace. Clifford Robinson. All most definitely "true post players".
     
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    Serious question, unsure why you don't want to answer it. You say you don't think he is a true post player because he doesn't score most of his points out of the post. So who is?
     
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    Do you want historically or currently? I think Aldridge is part of a trend of power forwards that started with guys like Dirk and Sheed. They are more than capable of playing the paint, but they're in love with the outside shot. Obviously Dirk is quite possibly the best shooting big man of all time, but he helped along the cause of the finesse forward that we see much of today.
     
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    Of current. I don't believe there's any "true" post player who is getting over half of his points out of post ups. I could very well be wrong. And again, I don't consider someone getting the ball on the PnR abd scoring at the rim a post up player. It seems many are quick to criticize LMA for what they want him to be, when nobody else is doing that. I want him to average 45 points on 18 shots, and get 25 rebounds. And I'm mad as hell when he doesn't do it. WHo are the true post up players he should be more like?
     
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    I didn't say he should be like anyone. I'm fine with him scoring from all over the floor. I would prefer a few less outside shots, but that's part of his game. My point was that the league favors wing players with their rules. PapaG said that Hibbert, West, and Duncan disagree. While I think Duncan's game is fairly similar offensively to Aldridge, Hibbert is obviously different.
     
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    You said you don't consider him a true post player who gets most his points from ther. Just asking who is.
     
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    But I didn't say if that was a good or bad thing, did I?

    Do you consider him to be a true post player?
     
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    LOL.

    who is a true post player?
     
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    Haha! That wasn't what you posted originally.

    Who are the pure post scoring PFs according to "Brian", who posts a lot of words, but those words are easily dissected and proven wrong when actually looking at the question posed.
     
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    And only people with too much time on their hands over analyze and break down the intent and meaning of every single post they disagree with on an internet forum. Congrats, you win at life.
     

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