Official 2013 Draft thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Fez Hammersticks, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. PapaG

    PapaG Banned User BANNED

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    291
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Tualatin, OR
    Jimmer had a 14.6 PER last year and shot 42% from 3pt. It's not like he's a bust. He can shoot the ball well. The problem is he's not an NBA PG, so he'll need to be a Craig Hodges or Anthony Morrow who comes in and busts a zone or unclogs the middle.
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2013
  2. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Maybe it's gamesmanship. Maybe it's good poker strategy. But the whisper coming from One Center Court in recent days has been that Portland isn't currently enamored by any one player and if they were drafting today they'd deal the pick. And to that, I'd encourage the Blazers to take a look in the mirror and acknowledge they're among the thinnest teams in the NBA. If they don't recognize that there's someone in this draft -- yes, even available 10th -- who can help coach Terry Stotts win, then this franchise must be disillusioned. Oregonian

    One guess on who the writer is.

    Hint: he such a dick
     
  3. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,497
    Likes Received:
    5,679
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    Well in theory we would trade it for a rotation player right? Otherwise I would agree with his take.
     
  4. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    This franchise is disillusioned if they don't recognize that they for sure can get someone at the 10 spot who will help Stotts win next year? This whole draft, from the very top, is a crap shoot. There are no guarantees and Canzano a fool to just bank on the fact someone who can contribute right away will be available at the 10.

    I've always said that there will be some players who will come in and contribute and some will surprise, but Canzano is trying to spin the thinnest bench into making it sound easy to pick someone who can help. There will be busts in this draft and the potential to pick a bust with a lottery pick is high this year. Add that if the Blazers aren't really in love with anyone, what are the odds the right player will be available at 10 and the Blazers pick it.

    Basically the 10 pick is in no way a guarantee to help the team win . . as Canzano so easily predicts from the cheap seats
     
  5. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Brad Turner: NBA GMs, scouts say UCLA's Shabazz Muhammad's dradt stock is going down. Twitter @BA_Turner
     
  6. oldmangrouch

    oldmangrouch persona non grata

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    12,402
    Likes Received:
    6,323
    Trophy Points:
    113
  7. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 10h
    Y! Sources: Russian star Sergey Karasev has returned to Moscow until NBA Draft, fueling speculation of a guarantee.
     
  8. Boise Blazer

    Boise Blazer Thread Lightly

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2008
    Messages:
    7,259
    Likes Received:
    2,583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    etzko (New York City)

    What separates Oladipo and Mclemore from Kentavious Caldwell-Pope? He seems every bit as good as them.
    Chad Ford (1:25 PM)

    You're not the only one asking the question. The obvious answer is elite athleticism. Both Oladipo and McLemore have it. Caldwell-Pope is a good athlete, but he's not nearly as explosive as Oladipo and McLemore. Oladipo's a better defender. McLemore is a better shooter. But Caldwell-Pope is the most well rounded of them. I don't think he gets past the Wolves at No. 9.
     
  9. handiman

    handiman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,881
    Likes Received:
    3,916
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's an effed up draft when a fringe lottery guy is a better all-around player than the two guys largely pegged for the top pick.
     
  10. Boise Blazer

    Boise Blazer Thread Lightly

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2008
    Messages:
    7,259
    Likes Received:
    2,583
    Trophy Points:
    113
  11. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    34,276
    Likes Received:
    43,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "More well-rounded" does not equal "better all-around"
     
  12. handiman

    handiman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,881
    Likes Received:
    3,916
    Trophy Points:
    113
    True, but the differences are stated as being pretty thin, with the other two rated ahead of him largely on the basis of athleticism. The better all-around skill set sounds like equally good odds of panning out.
     
  13. Further

    Further Guy

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Messages:
    11,099
    Likes Received:
    4,039
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Stuff doer
    Location:
    Place
    oldmangrouch likes this.
  14. Reep

    Reep Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,545
    Likes Received:
    3,569
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    South Jordan, UT
    He has the perfect NBA center body. Big, long arms, athletic. If he wasn't so Raw (very raw), could shoot free throws, and had a motor he would be the first pick. Great project pick for a team that can wait for 4-5 years (if you believe he can gain a consistent motor).
     
  15. Further

    Further Guy

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Messages:
    11,099
    Likes Received:
    4,039
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Stuff doer
    Location:
    Place
    I get all that, but he was the same size and had the same athleticism 2 weeks ago, why did he shoot up the draft board. I don't remember exactly where he was, but I don't remember seeing him in the top twenty.
     
  16. Boise Blazer

    Boise Blazer Thread Lightly

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2008
    Messages:
    7,259
    Likes Received:
    2,583
    Trophy Points:
    113

    I think he was the popular player at the combine and that helped
     
  17. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,835
    Likes Received:
    25,054
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    Don't we already have that in a guy who can shoot free throws? We got him for the 11th pick last year.
     
  18. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,835
    Likes Received:
    25,054
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    They've got to throw in some surprise picks otherwise why would people keep checking their site?
     
  19. Reep

    Reep Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,545
    Likes Received:
    3,569
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    South Jordan, UT
    Yeah, like Leonard without the offensive touch.

    I think people believe that Adams will be a solid rebounder and shot blocker--even though that is in theory at this point.
     
  20. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,835
    Likes Received:
    25,054
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    Comparisons for Dieng: Ekpe Udoh or Bismack Biyombo.

    I think people would take those as insults, but Udoh went #6 and Biyombo went #7, and both play center, even though both are smaller than Dieng. (And that was in "better" drafts.)

    I think I'm reconciled to taking Dieng at #10.

    (Udoh actually had easily the best +/- when he was with the Warriors, which is part of the reason the Bucks insisted on him being included in the Bogut trade. I think he's been squeezed out by Larry Sanders' meteoric rise.)
     

Share This Page