Official 2013 Draft thread

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  1. Blazinaway

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    I still like Dieng and IMO he is the most ready to step in now and contribute of all the C's in this draft, and while he probably does not have the upside of some of the others the also IMO has the least "bust potential". 10 is too high, I think he goes 15-20
     
  3. Run BJM

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    Its not really an insult. Dieng was a good-not-great college player and looks to translate into another athletic, defensive minded tweener PF/C. Hes taller than both those guys (1 inch taller than Udoh) but lighter too and has a smaller wingspan than both. Statistically, Udoh's last season at Baylor (same age as Dieng is now) was probably statistically better than Dieng's.

    Can't speak much for Biyombo, but the way I see it Dieng will probably be a better rebounder than Udoh. I don't think he'll be a better defender. Udoh is incredible all around on that end of the floor and hes added weight since entering the league. At 6'11ish and 230 lbs Dieng could get tossed around a bit if he struggles to put on weight (keep in mind we're talking about a 23 and a half year old, not some string bean 19 y/o). Offensively they're both not complete 0's, but both have big time holes and will be below average.

    I like Dieng, but I don't think he's a starter on any kind of decent team. Could be a good backup a la Taj Gibson, but I wouldn't bet too much that he even becomes that good.
     
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    According to DraftExpress's pre-draft measurement database:

    Ht, wingspan, (reach), weight
    Dieng 6'9.75", 7'3.5" (9'3.5") 230 (age 23)
    Udoh 6'8.75", 7'4.5" (8'10.5") 237 (age 23)
    Biyombo 6'8.31", 7'6.16" (9'3.42") 245 (age 19 - IF we believe him)
    Nerlens Noel 6'10", 7'3.75" (9.2") 206(!) (age 19)

    Dunno how they measure "reach", but Dieng's is tops.

    Define "good but not great". Who is the "great" player available at 10? And I'd say Dieng was "great" at defense, at least, which is what we need. Nerlens Noel is supposed to be the same. Yes, he's younger, taller and more athletic, but he's also had a serious injury and weighed 206lbs at the combine.
     
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  5. BrianFromWA

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    why do people keep bringing up "combine weight" for NOel? I mean, I'm not sold on the guy, but he was playing at 225 before he was hurt and Dr. Andrews told him to slim down to recover. If he just maintained what he played with, he'd been bigger than Davis was and about eh same as Dieng.
     
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    http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/6/6/4401434/housenick-lehigh-g-c-j-mccollum-to-work-out-for-blazers

     
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    If we're going for a back up pg i think i'd rather have that German guy that is being compared to Rondo.
     
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    Was he really 225, or was that the listed roster weight?
     
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    I'll try to find the article, but it was saying that he was playing at 222.

    http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2013/...s-grant-cavs-have-been-most-thorough-on-noel/

    and this post:
    I mean, if you want to say the kid wasn't all that when he was playing, I get it. If you're worried about the ACL not recovering, I get it. But the weight thing just seems like inventing a way to nitpick, when there are already plenty to. :dunno:
     
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    Okay, forget the weight, focus on the fact that he blew out his ACL gruesomely. And we can't blame it on being too heavy. Put it this way: if Portland had got the #1 pick, wouldn't we all be shitting ourselves about drafting him?
     
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    That's a bit interesting. They are working out a bunch of guy who you would never take at 10, but wouldn't be available in the second round. Trade down? Buy some picks? I would love to see them take some shots on some project centers. Some of them become really good (Gasol, Asik, Gortat).
     
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    I'm really intrigued by MCW, but scared as well. Who can you look to as a successful forerunner of a skinny tall PG who can't shoot? Mark Macon is not a good sign. Shaun Livingston is the obvious suggestion, but he was (a) a high school player and (b) higher rated and (c) could shoot. All other tall players have converted to SG a couple of years in (Steve Smith, Penny Hardaway, Tyreke Evans et. al.). Maybe Brian Shaw? I've suggested before that he would be a good complement to Lillard, but if he sees his role as posting up more (a la Dre) I'm not sure that's going to fly. Also apparently he's one of those guys who's ALWAYS calling for the ball (don't'cha hate playing pickup with those guys?) and shows "bad body language" if he doesn't get it. Ick.
     
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    I repeat my suggestion: take Saric/Karasev at #10 (with the idea that he's not coming over this year) then trade him to Atlanta for the #17 and #18. That would free up even more cap space for Atlanta to take their shot at Chris Paul + Dwight Howard. We could take Dieng/Plumlee/whomever and a guard like Allen Crabbe.
     
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    Saric

     
  18. Fez Hammersticks

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    It's been said for the past few months that he'll pull out of the draft if he doesn't get a guarantee from a lotto team.
     
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    p.s. good post on Blazers Edge:

    #10 Picks In The Last 10 Years
     
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    LOL! Liked what you did with Fez's signature... That 70's show used to be one of my favorite sitcoms.
     

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