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  1. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Why does everyone seem to think Mathews is so great? He's average at best.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Don't know?
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    It's more like we don't know what you are talking about. Most posters like him and would like if he stayed with the team, but the majority have expressed that his best role is to come off the bench. Like he was signed to do behind Roy. Maybe a handful think he is great but the vast majority just plain like him. To me he is a healthy version of James Jones. And we need someone like that off the bench.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    I think you're creating a straw man here. I don't remember anyone referring to Mathews as "great"
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    It could be that he's thinking about media types referring to Wes as one of the "Core Four". Personally, I like Wes, but I don't consider him "core".
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    The Blazers are not going to win a championship unless they get REALLY lucky someday in the in the NBA draft...as in win the lottery when the next Lebron James comes while already having a roster full of young talent.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    I think there are other ways to build a team than by doing it out of the draft especially when your team already has a core group to build off of. Not everything good has to come from the draft. The only two players worth going after in this draft for the Blazers is Victor Oladipo and Ben McLemore. Everyone else is well, simply just a waste of time.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    It seems to me if the options are wait for a once in a lifetime prospect, or be a team that is a solid playoff contender, that can maybe get lucky with a hot streak to win it all, I'd rather bank on the hot streak than a once in a lifetime player.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    I agree that those two are the best options for Portland, but the Blazers have a lot of other needs for everyone else to be a waste of time. Like a bench........
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Ya but just stock piling the team with rookies just because of potential isn't going to help much. In other wards it's like cheap thrills & no frills. Go out and get a few veterans and a center that can really push this team.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Yes, in the pantheon of NBA shooting guards, Wes is average. But in the NBA as it exists at this point in time, Wes is an above-average SG. Good luck finding an obtainable upgrade.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Also Matthews is one of the few warriors on the team. The man does not know the word quit. Play through injuries like no one else currently on the Blazers. Heart, attitude and grit means a lot to me. Sure, there are much better SG's in the NBA but for what his salary is I think he's a great value.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Matthews is a real talent, especially defensively; but I question his value on this team. He cannot create his own shot and rarely gets to the line. I know his range is stellar, but I think we need a guard that penetrates and creates his own shot; especially when we know that most teams will try their hardest to keep the ball out of Lillard's hands. WE need a guard that will punish you for doing that. I just don't think Wes is capable.

    Now keep in mind that I love Wes. I wish he would come off the bench for us. Sadly, I think he won't like that, therefor he will ask to be traded. I would much rather move Batum to SG and find a SF defensive guy to start in place of Batum at SF. Who knows, maybe even Claver could be that guy.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Wes will make a great sixth man.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Okay - name an available SG that "penetrates and creates his own shot". Now, does that player play even moderately good defense?
    Oh, wait, you want Nic to play SG? Does that fit your criteria of someone who penetrates and creates his own shot?
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Interesting take..........You know two SG I would not mind going after are Jeremy Lamb or Terrence Ross.
     
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    Nic handles the ball much better than Matthews; plus his length would be a nightmare for opposing teams.

    Also, nic can post up too; which will be an advantage against smaller guards. Nic is quick enough to guard other guards too.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Nic can post up?

    News to me
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    I could see some scenarios for moving Batum to SG but it isn't because he is a better penetrator because I don't think he is. Not that Wes is all-world, just better than Batum.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Batum cannot post up with any efficiency against any size of defender. I also wouldn't say Nic handles the ball much better than Wes, if he's any better, it's only slightly. He certainly can't penetrate any better.
     
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