Require parents who don’t want a child vaccinated to get a science lesson

Dang, you got married??

 

Good enough. I'll now start calling her your wife. Losing the "girlfriend" moniker. 'Bout time.

 

I like Startalk, but too many segments. I really wish he would delve a little deeper sometimes, but it's a fun show and gives a great taste of different topics.

Michio Kaku's podcast I listened to a couple times, one was fascinating, the next was boring. So in a " what have you done for me lately" move, I never listened again. I just put it back on my iPhone and ill try it again. Thanks for the reminder.

 

I was being honest if it were affecting me, this is not to say its the best policy for government.

It reminded me of Dukakis being asked about the rape and murder of Kitty. You can answer honestly, which opposes your strategy, or you can answer with a lie, that makes you look like a lying, gutless dick. I answered that I'd like Kitty's rapest shot right between the eyes.

 

If you're afraid of un-vaccinated people, stay in your fucking bubble. Then everybody is happy.

 

Please post the part that shows there is no link between vaccines and autism. I couldn't find it, just a bunch of empty paid opinions saying "I looked and didn't see a link".

 

Flu deaths have ballooned worldwide since the implementation of the flu vaccine.

 

They have the right to move away.

In your first examples, you knowingly join a community with certain rules.

In the last example, part of the community changes the rules against your wishes and tries to force your compliance.

 

You are referring to laws, most of which are meaningless, unnecessary and unenforceable.

Rights are a birthright, but only as long as you're willing to defend them.

They can only infringe upon your rights as much as you allow them to.

And there are no laws against yelling fire in a theater (unless you're lying about the fire).

If there is a fire in a theater, and you don't yell fire, you may be in violation of the Good Samaritan Law in some states.

 

Hmm, apparently the well educated Maris is unaware of the 1918 influenza pandemic?

What is your source?
Absolute numbers may have increased, after all, the world's population has increased and more of us are living in cities. What about relative numbers?

For the record, I support the right to birth control and abortion and yes childbirth not because I think a woman's body is her property but because I think a woman has the right to make her own choices. Even those I personaly disagree with. It's not a property question, it's a human rights question.

Papa G, if everyone was opposed to rape, we would not have so many rapes, so many rape victims being demonized while the rapists are excused, so many jokes about how funny rape is, et al.

And back to the original, no one is being forced to vaccinate. They are being made to get information. Again, why is informed consent such a bad thing?

Here is a thought experiment. Was Harriet Tubman a hero or a criminal? She stole property from its lawful owners. No question. Admittedly. Very valuable property. Slaves were as much property as a house, a horse, land, furniture, whatever. And a prime young adult was worth a lot of money. If property rights are your starting point, was she a criminal for stealing all that property? The property that was human beings?

 

That's funny, I see a person who admits to be not a real person. Then shits on everyone else's opinion without giving any sources. Long story short, why don't you throw away your laptops and cellphones too, because those might be causing you cancer. Or are you just afraid to admit that autism might be caused by the parents bad genes and life decisions at fault?

 

without a doubt there have always been "That boy is off." And there are more people thus raising the number of autism cases (assuming it's a percent of the population) Additionally there are studies (as I posted previously) that show there are links to the father being older and the mother being obese. These factors have also gone up.

 

I biked this morning with a scientist from OHSU and we discussed the vaccine issue. His belief is that you should be able to opt out, but that once you do so the kid should not be allowed to attend public school, fly or ride on public planes and buses, and basically be ostracized from group settings. We live in cities and part of that is managing disease. If people aren't willing to do their part in that management, and are in turn putting everyone else at risk of sickness or death, they should not be allowed to be members of that population. It sounds tough, and likely it is too much at this time, but there is little doubt that already we have some deaths due to insufficient vaccinations. At what point do those deaths become too high? 5 deaths a year? 50? 50,000 deaths, 5 million deaths? If five million people a year die as a result of people not getting vaccinations, is that enough to make it mandatory. Don't forget, not getting vaccinated doesn't just affect that person, it affects other non-vaccinated, as well as potentially all vaccinated people as well because they may serve as the pathogen host during a mutation that could make vaccinations no longer effective.

TB is on a comeback right now, especially in certain jails and confined areas around the world. But what is scary is that this new TB has mutated so whereas it used to be fully treatable, now most treatments do not work and a high percentage of those who get this mutated strain die as a result even if they receive treatment. The common flu kills a half million a year, mostly old and young. If the flu vaccinations were mandatory, we would likely be able to limit the threat and possibly be able to eradicate it. Of course some of those half mil would still die, or would die soon after because they are the weak in our society, but lets say 1 in ten survived and were able to live a healthy life, thats 50,000 lives saved.

 

Population control man!