You know, it truly sucks that you had such a lousy introduction to people who claimed to be Christian. They were flat out wrong in the way they treated you. If you've walked the earth for very many years you know that there's no shortage of jackasses. Unfortunately, there's no denying that Christianity has had more than its share of jackasses of various stripes within our midst. But to blame Christianity for the failings of these people would be akin to blaming soccer for the actions of soccer houligans at World Cup matches. The message of Jesus is one of all-surpassing love. Unfortunately, that's not the message that has been spread by many fundamental Christians. Eli, I'm glad you started this thread. My name is Rick and I don't know that there's anything I could ever say that would make a dent in the armour of disbelief that you wear. I'd be happy to talk with you about it any time you like. I assume that the purple 'fro is a thing of the past?
homo just kidding i couldn't help myself. I love homos and no homos and heteros and no heteros and the like. just cracking wise. I have never been to one of the Blazer board meet ups, but I will go to one sometime, and hope that you are there. Not so much to talk about Jesus, religion or atheism, but just to have a beer (or whatever) and jive a bit. As far as talking about the issues in this thread, I'm cool with that too, but don't think that in anyway shape or form am I interested from a personal belief standpoint, I am very happy with my atheism. I just find the topic interesting, the history interesting, the individuals interesting and the willingness for opposite sides to engage in pleasant discussion fun. As far as the other Christians being fire and brimstone dickheads, I know very well they don't represent all Christians. Peace
Me admitting it should not make any difference to there being dicks on the Christian side. Of course there are dicks everywhere, dick atheists, dick Jews, dick Christians, dick Disney employees. It could be a matter of perspective, but I see fewer dicks in the atheist realm, but they most certainly exist. Just ask Vanilla Gorilla (JUST KIDDING VG, I think you're one dope dude as well). EDIT: Also, i called the fire and brimstone ones dickheads, not all Christians.
Very Good? Yes the Constitution is a secular Document and as such I think you must agree that it is a significant step in establishing the Government Mr. Jefferson alluded to for protecting the rights endowed upon us by our Creator. See Genesis in the Bible for the creating reference. But I think you can credit Mr. Jefferson with informing us that our rights come to us as a result of our creation. We need not look to mortal men, panjanders or pandering politician for the things that come from God. This is a prescription for freedom for any man with the wit to grasp it. Our rights come to us naturally from our creator, we employ the politicians to create the Government to secure those rights. Your rights came to you regardless where you are in your belief system under this government that was created to allow men to fully prosper living within the Christian philosophy. Of Course Caesar's documents are rightfully secular. But the philosophy of the creation of the this nation, the Declaration of Independents was inspired by the need to recognize and support the basic need of men desiring to live free within the Christian Philosophy. Page one of the creation of the nation is supported by page one of the Bible, the Genesis of creation. I am not sure what Mr Jefferson might have said about this Question, Who was Jesus. I know he was not a religious man, But I am very sure he did not miss the big picture.
was jesus like half god, and half human from his human mother? or like put into her womb as an in vitro clone of god himself (all god)? i mean jesus was a human, so he must have had dna and fingerprints and stuff, so he cant be all god, but where did he get his dna from then? wonder if he had a blood type? blue eyes? did he get all that stuff from his mom (probably would have had to right?)? hmm
He got it from the Holy Spirit (God). If He had got it from Joseph's seed, He would have had then inherited a sin nature....which would have entirely defeated the purpose of His coming to Earth.
i mean, you said he wasnt a man because then he would have sin right? so he was just sort of placed in marys womb, and not carrying any of her dna or characteristics right? im not trolling i really would like to know
That is correct. The seed carries the dna, etc. Born of a woman, conceived by the Holy Spirit. It's a God thing, dude.
something to ponder i guess seems like if he was half human, that would explain the needing to eat and pee and having blood and whatnot
The spirit has no DNA. God is of spirit; and sense Jesus was also man; he was of flesh, but god in spirit.
You are thinking that god is bound by our natural laws. I would assume its pretty easy for someone that had the ability to create a universe would be able to seed a virgin.
