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  1. Blaze01

    Blaze01 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Interesting analysis from a scout:


    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/co...30624/2013-nba-draft-prospects/?sct=uk_t11_a1

    a couple interesting excerpts:

     
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    I agree. I checked to see how much Deng has played the last few years, and was surprised he has played as much as he has. He seems like he is always hurt. Either way I would not make that trade if I were Washington.
     
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    Pinwheel1, Jun 24, 2013
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  4. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Fair enough.
    Not at all. I think many people on this team will improve with LMA gone.
    If you can in any way offer a separate outcome, I'm all ears. But the FACT is that if all you do is use either the draft pick or cap space or both to get that "defensive big" that LMA so desperately has begged for repeatedly, then there is NO OTHER POSSIBLE WAY that you a) get a draft pick in 2014 without either trading one of the core or missing the playoffs, b) have more than the MLE in the summer of 2014, or c) have a lotto pick in 2015 unless you trade one of the core or miss the playoffs. That's not 100% negative, that's 100% FACT.
    First, Thompson is not injury-prone. He's a young big who's averaging just about a double-double with a 16 PER. Second, I didn't say we HAD to draft Len or Noel, but let's be clear--neither one of them is as close to injury-prone as Roy was when we was drafted. Noel's had an ACL surgery that supposedly is recovering "perfectly". Len's stress fracture in his ankle was supposedly fixed with surgery, but I get it if you don't like taking injured centers. What about Oladipo or McLemore?

    So we can use cap space this year to get someone who will make LMA stay, but we won't be able to use it in 2015 when he goes unless it's a hedo-type overpay? How does that make sense?
    If you think a lineup of, say, Lillard/Oladipo/Batum/Thompson/(mediocre C) + lotto pick "slightly off from Wiggins" with Wes, Leonard, a full 2014 MLE, #10, and #19 off the bench is mediocre 2 years from now, then I don't know what to tell you. OR, if you think Lillard/(FA signing this year)/Batum/Thompson/Noel + lotto pick "slightly off from Wiggins" with Wes/Leonard/Claver/full 2014 MLE/#10/#19 is mediocre, then you're welcome to your opinion.

    But I beg you to show me where there's even the remotest possibility that you can keep the Core 4, make the playoffs, and have any more additions to this team between now and July 1, 2015 that aren't a) this years #10 pick (and, to be fair, #39/40/45), b) ~11M in cap space, c) 2014 full MLE, d) 2015 draft pick. And obtw, somehow you need to spin a) and/or b) into a "defensive big" that will keep LMA from going to wherever he wants to go for nothing.
     
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    None. But if I had to make a choice - CLE. Because it's so much easier to build a "contender" in the East. They could make one trade and be a Top 4 team in the East, and just hope the game breaks their way.
     
    blue9, Jun 24, 2013
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    swapping rosters just. You can't move us east. You swap rosters/cap space, etc.
     
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    Oh - so the Cavs actually move to POR? Gotcha. That's tougher.
     
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    Is it bad that I immediately think, "I wonder how Batum instead of Deng would change things"?
     
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    :)
    thought the same
     
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    David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 6m
    You can put @LuolDeng9 to the Wiz for @BigMek50 and the 3rd pick on ice. No chance
     
    Boise Blazer, Jun 24, 2013
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    George Karl, a lot of their front offices guys leaving, and as stated Iggy leaving. Not to mention some of the coaches they've been talking to seem underwhelming.
     
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    I have really liked that possibility of getting a center for now (Okafor) and one for the future (Len), or Olipado, if you believe he could play soon.
     
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    It wouldn't be bad if you worked for Washington and were a wishful thinker.
     
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    George Karl was underwhelming. Potentially losing Iggy will hurt more I think. Don't expect them to win that many games, but I think they'll still get #2 in the division next year.
     
    illmatic99, Jun 24, 2013
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    You're saying that Batum isn't worth 3 + Okafor?
     
    PtldPlatypus, Jun 24, 2013
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    Thanks! (Actually, it's several scouts.) Here's some other quotes:
    The good:
    ...and the NASTY:

     
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    Ben Golliver ‏@blazersedge 4m
    Pelton: WARP Projections Love Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Cody Zeller, C.J. McCollum In 2013 NBA Draft http://sbn.to/10gI3hF

    Im really starting to warm to the idea of Pope. But Im guessing that he is now moving up higher than our pick.
     
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    HOOPSWORLD ‏@HOOPSWORLD 35s
    Report: Hawks Hope to Move Up in Draft: The Atlanta Hawks are dangling their two first-round picks for a trade... http://bit.ly/177v4kd
     
    Boise Blazer, Jun 24, 2013
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    Casey Holdahl ‏@CHold 2m
    The Blazers had 7 of the 10 players on @kpelton's second-round WARP steals list in for predraft workouts
     
    Boise Blazer, Jun 24, 2013
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