LMA wants out?

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  1. NOVoodoo

    NOVoodoo Kickin it in 2525

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    LMA for Blake would make sense basketball wise, but once you factor in what a marketing juggernaut Blake Griffin is and how many viewers/asses in seats he contributes to a franchise, he gets elevated to a whole nother level trade-value wise. I don't think the Blazers could swing a trade for Griffin unless they made it a three-way trade and involved Lillard, and even then, it's doubtful that Griffin would resign with Portland.
     
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    And he can live there all year round. Oh yeah "his family lives in dallas".

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    Thats the zinger. But he just signed a 5 year last summer. But then again any player we trade for could bolt as well.

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    Curious though, why would ya'll want Griffin in the first place? He's trying to develop his mid-range game to the point that it's hurting his original one-dimensional, yet effective game that was solely based on his strength and explosiveness. His rebounding has dipped as a result, his athleticism will eventually fade, he still doesn't have much of a back-to-the-basket game, and as much as he's improved as a mid-range shooter, he's still ineffective in that role.

    Really, his career trajectory is on the downswing, whereas his trade value is unreasonably high because of his marketability. I'd rather try to pull a sign-and-trade for one of the Utah bigs, if I were shopping LMA.
     
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    I'd rather have Blake Griffin of course because I don't want to fall asleep while watching basketball. Although I do think he is very overrated and very one dimensional it'll be fun having a power dunker on the team though.

    Also if I'm giving up a 20 point per game player in his prime, I want one back not a guy who's going to score 10 points one game.15 the next then have a string of single digit games

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    I'm with this idea. If were going to suck (and if we trade LMA for Griffin we are in a lot worse shape) I'd enjoy watching a team throw down highlight real after highlight reel. Then after were a 20 win team and get Wiggins next year draft Griffin before people realize he is overrated.
     
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    If you want entertainment, then why not just bring J-Will out of retirement, sign Birdman to an overpaid deal, and draft D.J. Stephens?

    I understand your frustration (I mean, my Grizz have been shit for 10 out of our 12 years), but trading for Griffin? C'mon... that'd just fuck you over in the long run, and again, it would probably be a deal involving Lillard, not LMA.
     
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    Clippers already will have cp3 resigned. If they want a ring....LA is a much better option than Blake. .. but Blake sells the jerseys.

    And trading for low impact players will have the same effect... but will suck to watch because the dunkage will be less

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    LMA might be a better fit, but when considering all the options LAC would have if they actually decided to move Griffin, LMA's got to be pretty low on that totem poll.

    LAC could make a push for Love, Horford, or Lopez, and acquire decent future assets in the process, or they could even throw in some picks of their own and make a run at someone someone like Westbrook or Harden. I just don't see that deal happening unless it's a deal involving Lillard, and because LAC doesn't need a PG, they'd have to bring in a third (or fourth) party to facilitate.
     
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    Rumor was Blake felt a little jilted by the Clippers, with them apparently shopping him and pieces for Dwight.

    Could force his way out - and LMA could be the best offer.

    Not a huge Blake fan, but it instantly makes Portland a more marketable team. Lillard/Batum/Griffin.

    I'm also not as low on Blake as some around here are. Shot better from the field than LMA and got to the FT line more. LMAs never even sniffed Blakes rebounding rate, and Blake got better as a defender.
     
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    Yeah but lillard is untouchable.
     
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    Ah, but you're assuming those teams would take that deal. They would need incentive to move such a player. Minny might, because they know they pissed off Love. But he seems to really enoy playing with Rubio. Also, his recent injuries woes may be cause for concern. Horford tempting, but he is another abysmal FT shooter. Couldn't play him AND DeAndre in a close game. And there is no way Brooklyn trades their center for a PF. Just, no way.
     
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    So, I think LMA would actually be pretty high. Good outside shooter (pick and pop), can play in the paint, decent-mediocre rebounder (ideal pairing for DJ), good FT shooter, and has an arsenal of post moves and can run the floor like a deer.
     
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    You guys are hilarious. How is this a fan issue?

    Where there's smoke, there's fire. First the Cleveland rumor a few weeks ago, then Bucher, now this.

    Do you think these rumors would surface for no reason at all?

    Do you think Olshey would trade Aldridge unless either he requested it, he had strong indications that Aldridge would leave in two years, or that there was a good offer on the table?

    Why can't you at least consider the idea that Aldridge wants out and that it's not about running him off? I am with Brian. I think Aldridge is gone one way or another when his contract is up, and I think it will most likely be a team in Texas.
     
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    I actually think that Mikhail Prokhorov would jump at the chance to bring Blake Griffin into the Brooklyn hype machine. Lopez is very tradeable if Griffin's on the table, and they'd probably even have to throw in some other assets along with him. I think ya'll are underestimating the value that Griffin's presence immediately adds to a franchise.

    Either way, is LAC even trying to shop him? I've heard Jordan and Bledsoe rumors, but I haven't heard that they're shopping Griffin. It seems like to even attempt to bring him on board, you'd have to give up way more than you'd be willing to give up, even if it makes sense basketball-wise.
     
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    There was a rumor from before the Rivers/KG saga that LAC wanted to hold Bledsoe back from the deal b/c they wanted to do a Griffin/Bledsoe for Dwight deal. I don't put a lot of stock in it, but there was that rumor.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    This.
     
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    Rumors fly this time of year because analysts are bored and love to come up with random trade scenarios. They just look at situations they think are ideal for a trade because of certain scenarios and BAM post a hypothetical trade about it. Just because there are rumors has no relation to whether LMA stays or leaves. Your point on Olshey is pretty dead on though, if LA gets traded it means the offer was either AMAZING or Olshey knows LA wants to leave and Olshey got what he figured was the best offer for him.

    I don't think he is leaving in 2 years unless were a lottery team and even then were going to be able to deal him instead of just letting him walk as a UFA.
     
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    I don't think people are underestimating what Griffin brings to a franchise its what he brings to the court people are talking about. He has very very glaring holes in his game and has seemed to regress every year he has been in the league. The Hype/Money/Attention Griffin brings to any team is worth a lot, that just doesn't translate to the court.
     
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    I called this when zbo was traded. I said eventually you (people) would turn on aldridge...who needed zbo gone to flourish and in a few years the same will happen with Lillard. Its all cyclical around these parts.

    We will be a solid playoff team in two years if not next if we keep trucking along.

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