blazers reject LMA for Cle two first round picks

That's me all right. I don't watch any of the games.

Saying someone is a better passer is dumb because there is nothing to back it up.

 

2014 draft class is said to be one of the best in recent memory. If trading Aldridge is going to happen, I'd rather we do it now, suck and have a chance at Wiggins than wait and end up at 12 or worse yet without a pick next year

 

I'm always willing to trade, but I just don't think this offer is close. To me, the Cavs would have to at minimum find a way to get a second top 4 pick, something like the 1 and the 4, that would be closer to fair. Then the Blazers could draft Len or Noel at C, and Oladipo at SG, and have a bunch of money to go get West or some other PF for now. But even that would be borderline.

 

What were Howard, Melo, Paul traded for?

 

Yes, both or all ideally. I'd let it be known to other GMs that a deal is in the works to see if it shakes out any better offers. But #1, #19, Thompson is a pretty good haul, IMO. I'd then look to turn around and trade the #1 for another player and a pick.

 

All drafts are not equal.

 

Yeah, I would be shocked if CLE dealt the #1 and both Waiters AND Thompson, likely POR just gets 1 of them....My preference would be Thompson, b\c he still young 22, and while I don't think he will reach the level of LA, I do think he could be a 15\10 type guy for a long time at the PF spot, which is a downgrade from LA but not much...and then adding an Oladipo\McLemore (my preference) has the potential to be an upgrade...

I do think POR could work that #19 pick and Papnikalou to DAL for the #13 and then possible work the #10 & #13 into a top 5 pick and go after another player like Len maybe? Actually, if POR agreed to take back Marion (who has 1yr left) and give the rights to Papnikalou and 2 of thier 2nd rounders (DAL wants to preserve cap space it appears), I think that might be enough to get the #13...Then you have #1, #10, #13 & #19...use the #10 and #13 to move up to #4 (CHA) or #5 (PHX) and then use #19 on a player

So you trade LA, #10, both of highest 2nd rounders and rights to Papanikalou and you get

Tristan Thompson, McLemore (#1), Len (#5 from PHX) and whomever at #19 (Ledo?) & Marion who has 1yr left on his deal

and you likely insure that you keep that 2014 pick away from CHA.....and a chance to add another major piece to the roster next year (as well as cap space)

Won't happen lol, but fun to speculate....

 

I have a suspicion if Cleveland does deal for Aldridge; they have their sights set on LBJ when he is available. The 3 headed monster of LBJ, Irving and Aldridge would be extremely formidable.

 

When does our pick stop being protected from CHA? 2015? Better make sure we're not a lotto team at that point...

 

That trio has a better future than what Lebron has going on with the Heat.

Why do so many people keep talking like Cleveland has a shot at Lebron, anyway? Just curious.

 

I really don't know. Just going with what people are saying. Maybe because he has unfinished business? I bet if he three-peats next season, he will move to Cleveland.

 

I would also like to know this!

 

I actually like this plan quite a bit. I think I'd go Oladipo instead of McLemore though - especially with Ledo at #19. And a 15/10 PF would be ideal (assuming it is fairly efficient, and defense is present).

 

Something I was thinking of was...
LMA & Wes, and 2 second rounders
for
#1, #19, Thompson, & Waiters(continued)

After getting Cleveland to agree to that we look to add a 3rd trading partner to offload Waiters because while I'm not high on him he does have value as a young prospect.

Offer Charlotte
Waiters, #19, and maybe Meyers if that what it takes
for
#4

So outgoing LMA, Wes, 2nd rounders (and maybe Meyers)
and
Incoming #1, #4, Thompson

From Cleveland's perspective they get their coveted player and swap Waiters for Wes, who would work better with Irving off the ball than Waiters, and they still maintain enough flexability to offer Lebron or whomever a max or near max contract next summer.

Charlotte trades back while filling their hole at SG and maybe acquiring another high upside prospect, and it's a scoring SG that would work nicely with MKG being less of an offensive threat on the wing.

Benefits for POR are opening up massive cap room this year and next, plus adding a bunch of young talent to the roster to try and kickstart a fast rebuild from a roster that could be stuck in mediocrity with LMA looking like he's on the way out if that's the case. Personally I target Len and Oladipo with the 1 and 4, and use the 10 on someone who can score and hopefully create a bit of their own offense like McCollom, with KCP and Shabazz as possibilities.

 

Could they give up their #10 to Charlotte if they do that? That way they won't have issues with losing the pick.

 

If Minny rejected the Love deal, I'm thinking the Blazers are looking at the same type of offer from Cleveland:

Cleveland sends Thompson, Waiters, the #1 and #19 pick to Portland for LMA and the Greek, along with maybe Freeland and some 2nd rounders.

Makes the Blazers very young.

 

Makes them a 25-win team next year, too.

 

And firmly on the Wiggens tank train.

 

And in line to get Wiggins

 

this fucking line needs to die in a fire