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Couple issues that I find interesting.

1) He chose to confide in a reporter? That's silly.
2) Apparently that reporter doesn't care much about revealing such things.
3) He revealed this desire in April, but the reporter waited until late June to reveal this.
 
I'm just curious, but what exactly do you people want? Do you want him to publicly come out and say, "I want out!"

You realize that hurts our team, right? That hurts his value? He's doing us a favor, but you guys are just refusing to accept the reality that he wants to leave Portland.

1. The Blazers are shopping him. Do you think they'd be shopping him if he had told Neil that he loves Portland and wants to stay?

2. There have been reports that Aldridge has cut all ties in Portland. That seems like a huge red flag to me.

3. There have been reports that Aldridge is unhappy here, from a few different sources.

Where is this all coming from if it's not true?
 
Anyways, looking past the mysterious nature of how and why this news got out, I'm looking at ATL right now. If they're willing to move Smoove in a S&T, is there anyway we can get in on a three way and land both Smith and Asik for LA+ pieces?

For eg:
- LA to HOU
- Leonard + cash + HOU pick to ATL
- Asik and Smith to POR


We'd be top 4 in the west with that starting five, and we'd be able to stick Smith in a position he likes at PF.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Anyways, looking past the mysterious nature of how and why this news got out, I'm looking at ATL right now. If they're willing to move Smoove in a S&T, is there anyway we can get in on a three way and land both Smith and Asik for LA+ pieces?

For eg:
- LA to HOU
- Leonard + cash + HOU pick to ATL
- Asik and Smith to POR


We'd be top 4 in the west with that starting five, and we'd be able to stick Smith in a position he likes at PF.
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Interesting thought. How much do you see Smith re-signing for?
 
Natebishop3 said:
There have been reports that Aldridge is unhappy here, from a few different sources.

Where is this all coming from if it's not true?
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Or it is all coming from one source. Who knows what the context of his comment was to that reporter. Maybe the reporter made it up. Maybe LMA was frustrated then and still is. Maybe he was frustrated then and is not now. One thing I am sure about is we will have at least 10 more threads about this topic before the start of the season.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Anyways, looking past the mysterious nature of how and why this news got out, I'm looking at ATL right now. If they're willing to move Smoove in a S&T, is there anyway we can get in on a three way and land both Smith and Asik for LA+ pieces?

For eg:
- LA to HOU
- Leonard + cash + HOU pick to ATL
- Asik and Smith to POR


We'd be top 4 in the west with that starting five, and we'd be able to stick Smith in a position he likes at PF.
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The problem I see with that are twofold:

1) We make Houston the best team in the West. Easily. Harden/Aldridge/Howard would be crazy good, and young. I don't see how anyone beats that team in a seven game series.

2) If we're going to move Aldridge, I'm not sure if Smith/Asik is the best way to go. It might be better to go for young talent and draft picks. If Aldridge is gone, I'm not sure if Lillard/Matthews/Batum/Smith/Asik is really that much better than what we has last year (if at all).
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Or it is all coming from one source. Who knows what the context of his comment was to that reporter. Maybe the reporter made it up. Maybe LMA was frustrated then and still is. Maybe he was frustrated then and is not now. One thing I am sure about is we will have at least 10 more threads about this topic before the start of the season.
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It can't be one source. The trade rumors have come from guys like Bucher, Haynes, Amik, etc.

The trade demand thing has come from Blazers Edge.

The unhappy Aldridge rumors have come from Quick, but I think there was another source on that one too.

There's no way this is all coming from one source. Maybe one report is, but the rumors and the various stories are coming from other sources.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It can't be one source. The trade rumors have come from guys like Bucher, Haynes, Amik, etc.

The trade demand thing has come from Blazers Edge.

The unhappy Aldridge rumors have come from Quick, but I think there was another source on that one too.

There's no way this is all coming from one source. Maybe one report is, but the rumors and the various stories are coming from other sources.
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I am sure teams inquired about LMA, so i am sure the trade rumors are true. Neil probably did his job by exploring every option as well.

The unhappy LMA rumors could very well be from the one source that everyone locally jumped on. Either way it could be old news. How many times did Kobe demand a trade and then backed off.

If they find a great deal for him then sure take it. But I guarantee that the media will drive him out of town before anything else. He hates talking to them and he will hate having to answer the same questions over and over in September.
 
If Aldridge truly wants out; I don't want to bring in smith or even asik. There is no point. I would rather get significant cap relief from a team like Cleveland. That Thompson, next years first rounder and maybe another first rounder in 06 would be a better fit.

Whatever the case; we need to trade for first rounders and cap space. Then we will have a fun run and gun team to watch for one season that will probably lose a lot of games and have a good shot at winning the lotto. We would have max cap space for the deep free agent class next season, first rounders in a deep draft and cj would get significant burn.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I am sure teams inquired about LMA, so i am sure the trade rumors are true. Neil probably did his job by exploring every option as well.

The unhappy LMA rumors could very well be from the one source that everyone locally jumped on. Either way it could be old news. How many times did Kobe demand a trade and then backed off.

If they find a great deal for him then sure take it. But I guarantee that the media will drive him out of town before anything else. He hates talking to them and he will hate having to answer the same questions over and over in September.
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If he hates talking to the media, he's in the wrong damn business. I hate when people choose a career that brings fame and then complain about dealing with the media. It's part of the package.
 
(moved to HOU trade thread)
 
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HailBlazers said:
I agree, so glad this will be the last thread on this topic. Has got to be a record for the number of threads started on the very same ounce of "news."
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There are always the options of ignoring and just not opening the thread.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The problem I see with that are twofold:

1) We make Houston the best team in the West. Easily. Harden/Aldridge/Howard would be crazy good, and young. I don't see how anyone beats that team in a seven game series.

2) If we're going to move Aldridge, I'm not sure if Smith/Asik is the best way to go. It might be better to go for young talent and draft picks. If Aldridge is gone, I'm not sure if Lillard/Matthews/Batum/Smith/Asik is really that much better than what we has last year (if at all).
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I think it will be far better actually. Great D and really versatile.

PtldPlatypus said:
Interesting thought. How much do you see Smith re-signing for?
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50mil/4yrs?
 
No wonder Olshey kept repeating during draft time that its important to get people that want to be in Portland.
 
I don't want to move him to Houston. Like was mentioned, he fits too well there with Dwight and Harden. Not interested.
I also imagine Neil is looking for younger pieces, but not rookie-young. More like young vets, where the turnaround time at competing is 2 years instead of 4 or 5. I dunno who that is. Will take some time later at looking. BE broke down team by team. Weren't a ton of good matches really.
 
Definitely do not want to trade Aldridge for Asik. And not because we would be gifting them a championship piece (again). As Brian outlined, I don't want to take back Asik unless Aldridge is still on the team. (Actually, the only deal I'd be happy with is a S&T Hickson for Asik.) If we trade LaMarcus, I want only young lottery picks, future first rounders, and short-term refuse to make it work.
 
If we were to make a deal for Smith/Asik, there would have to be other deals to follow.

Smith is only 27 and Asik is 26. They're not exactly old. But we would have to try to get some more talent. Tony Allen maybe? I wonder if Kaman would come in as a backup.

Lillard/CJ
Matthews/Allen
Batum/Claver
Smith/Robinson
Asik/Kaman

I think that team makes the playoffs. Not sure how deep it could go.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Anyways, looking past the mysterious nature of how and why this news got out, I'm looking at ATL right now. If they're willing to move Smoove in a S&T, is there anyway we can get in on a three way and land both Smith and Asik for LA+ pieces?
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Interesting idea, and Smith may be one of the best FAs out there, but he's a very inefficient scorer. Asik + Aldridge is a great combination - each makes up for the other's main weakness. NOT true of Asik + Smith.

How about Millsap? The Jazz would get a trade exception out of it, which is valuable, so it would actually be a benefit to them.
 
RR7 said:
I don't want to move him to Houston. Like was mentioned, he fits too well there with Dwight and Harden. Not interested.
I also imagine Neil is looking for younger pieces, but not rookie-young. More like young vets, where the turnaround time at competing is 2 years instead of 4 or 5. I dunno who that is. Will take some time later at looking. BE broke down team by team. Weren't a ton of good matches really.
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I would because it would make him happy. I think he's done everything right in his tenure here. Houston will find the draft picks and young talent we need to rebuild. And honestly; we won't be competing for a title for at least 4-5 years. By that time; Howard and Aldridge will be too old to stop us.
 
There is no fucking way smith agrees to sign with us. Sorry, but I don't see that happening.
 
My overall reaction: keep trying to get Asik, and if we do, hold off on trading Aldridge. Tell him to suck it up this year and see what happens, and if he's still unhappy at the end of the year, promise him to trade him then.

If we fail to get a big center to play next to him, then all bets are off and we go for cap space, youth and picks.
 
More scrap rumors in the trade LA piranha feeding tank. It doesn't take much to send things into a frenzy around here. I still am going with what he's saying now and the idea that him staying is dependent on putting enough talent around him to do that. If he tells NO he wants out then adjust accordingly.
 
e_blazer said:
More scrap rumors in the trade LA piranha feeding tank. It doesn't take much to send things into a frenzy around here. I still am going with what he's saying now and the idea that him staying is dependent on putting enough talent around him to do that. If he tells NO he wants out then adjust accordingly.
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So you won't believe it until Aldridge comes out publicly and says he wants out?
 
Natebishop3 said:
If he hates talking to the media, he's in the wrong damn business. I hate when people choose a career that brings fame and then complain about dealing with the media. It's part of the package.
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John Stockton rarely talked to the media after he got burned by them in his 2nd year. For the next 17 years they barely got a word out of him.

MJ chose who he spoke with. The rest were pretty much shut out.

But I agree that LMA has to learn to be more comfortable with the media. It does come with the territory. At the same time, the Portland media is annoying.
 
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