2013 Official NBA Off-season Movement & Rumors (Merged threads)

They wanted an answer for Iggy immediately. He wasn't ready to commit. They pulled it.

Sactown looks bad. Iggy will likely look stupid.

 

Yep. Pretty much.

@Sam_Amick
Kings wanted answer that Iguodala wasn't ready to give, so they pulled out and moved on. They'll regroup & decide on Tyreke Evans etc.

 

Dumb fuck Iggy! I bet he's kicking himself now

 

I doubt it. I would take 6 MIL or so less to NOT play on the Kings.

 

I dont' see how you turn down that kind of money... I don't think anyone is going to give him close to that, 4/46 if what I was thinking but now it may well be in the lower 40's since competition to sign him is dwindling

 

This. They'd let Evans walk if they had Iggy in the bag. But with new ownership, they need to keep Evans or make a splash. Pulling Iggy's deal leads me to believe they match.

 

Yessir! I'm floating over here from that TA signing... I was really skeptical about the new management, but so far they've made all the right moves - trading Gay, drafting very well with just a couple of second rounders, bringing in Koufos for Arthur, and now resigning TA to a perfectly reasonable, long-term deal... I've got some faith in these new guys now...

I'm also surprised that Kevin Martin was able to be had so cheap. $7 mill a year? Hell, I'd jump on that one if my team had more money. For what some of these guys are getting paid, that's a steal.

I'm worried about the competition that the Clippers pose though. They may have given up more talent than they got in return in the Redick/Dudley deal, but both Redick and Dudley seem to fit their team better than Bledsoe and Butler. Having Redick's three point shooting with Paul ability to drive-and-dish could be deadly in the play-offs.

 

Is there anything we could send Atlanta to make the JSmith thing a three way where we end up with Asik? What are their team needs? My only concern is that Horford, who is awesome, has always complained about wanting to play with a C, and Asik they might see Asik as an answer. Not sure it'd actually work that well though, as neither is going to be good at guarding perimeter guys or stretch 4's, and both play somewhat inside on offense.

I actually think Horford and Aldridge would be perfect next to each other, no way we're getting him though.

Are hawks in total rebuild? Would they be interest in Meyers? If we sent Meyers to Houston (and they turn him into a 4, which might be better for him), would Atlanta want Terrance Jones or anyone enough to pass on Asik?

 

Anyone else warming up to the idea of Leonard for Gortat?

With the way everyone's getting paid I know it's only a one year rental of Gortat but it might be nice to have the guys bird rights. I honestly don't think we're that far away and could be very competitive with Gortat, bringing in a vet on minimum like O'neal, and getting a distributor for Aldridge (my preference being Andre Miller, who I think could be had for Freeland plus some SPAM), but whatever.

Plus, Leonard would work well with Lin, as Leonard can probably play some 4, and may actually be better at it. He does have a nice stroke.

 

That seems like more of a short-term solution for a team that's got to think long-term. I mean, Portland's in a position where they've got too many great future assets to try their hand at the lottery again next year, yet they don't have enough talent to be a true contender... maybe just a #6-8 seed at best. At this point, would a Gortat acquisition really move that needle? Probably not, so why not just hold onto your long-term assets?

 

Honestly, I think that this team

Lillard/Miller
Matthews/McCollum
Batum/Matthews
Aldridge/Robinson
Gortat/O'neal

Is a 3 or 4 seed. I like our odds in a playoff series against San Antonio or Memphis. I think we're competitive with Houston and OKC. I peg that team as a 4/5 seed who can make some noise if healthy, McCollum turns out to be decent, etc. I want to root for a team like that. Perpetually rebuilding is exhausting.

 

This x100000

 

I hate to be a pessimist, but a 3 or 4 seed is a real reach with that lineup. Portland had 33 wins this season (I get that there might have been some "tanking" involved, but still...), the #3-5 seeds had 57, 56, and 56 wins, respectively. I don't know if the additions of McCollum, Robinson, and Gortat really improve the Blazers by 23+ wins.

I also don't think a center who averaged 11 ppg in his prime (Gortat) will be a difference maker in a first round series versus the Spurs or Grizzlies. Not trying to be a homer, but the Grizz work inside-out, and they kill it on the boards. That Blazers frontcourt has very little post offense and would probably get killed on the boards.

Leonard has only played a year of pro ball, and by all considerable standards for a player on his development track, he did pretty well. Why not stand by your investment, who still has just as much potential as he did on draft night in favor for a borderline playoff move that leaves you wallowing in mediocrity?

In fact, if you're a fan of the Robinson acquisition, then shouldn't you have the opposite mentality when it comes to getting rid of Leonard? Both guys have just played a season in the league, and Leonard, more than Robinson, was drafted as a project. I say hold onto your blue chips instead of cashing as soon as you're one the verge of reaching the black...

 

You just described Joel Przybilla hahaha

 

Your love of Boozer has already pegged you as someone who cares only about offense. In fact, you've even praised Vinny Del Negro as a coach...

Actually, Asik is good at a lot of things. He's a younger Joel Przybilla - knows all the intricacies of team defense, sets picks, rebounds at an elite level. If all it takes to play defense is to have Thibodeau teach you, then how come Boozer never learned?

Yes, Asik is extremely challenged on O, but he can make cuts and rolls to the hoop and doesn't blow dunks, even if he blows layups.

No, they're not "trying to replace him", they're trying to land DWIGHT HOWARD. Who happens to play Asik's position. Houston loves Chandler Parsons, but if they thought they could get Kevin Durant they'd be "trying to replace" him, too.

Oh, and now they say they want to keep him.

 

As bad as it may get for us, at least we can say we're not Bucks fans.

 

Yeah Asik is playing just like Joel Przybilla did. I would like to add the guy to our roster but I have no idea why some people think he is the difference between us contending. Asik is a role player.

 

I think that:
1) not taking 2) improvement in Lillard & Aldridge having something to compete for 3) no JJ Hickson defending the paint 4) healthy Batum 5) those additions

Actually do mean a 15-20 game winning improvement. I think we win another 5 or 6 last year just not tanking. The other players and a more well rounded roster is 10 more wins IMO.

I think that a Blazer team with Aldridge and Gortat and a lot of great shooters is a better inside threat than the Grizz or Spurs. Aldridge IMO is a top 5 post player on offense in the L. Not many got to see that last year when playing with Hickson, who is a terrible passer and mediocre top of the key jumper, or Leonard who guys would double off of. Maybe I'm a homer, I think teams will crash on the Grizz next year just like SA did and Zbo's too short to make them pay. Your whole offense will hinge on Gasol in the high post, and he's the best in the league at it, but he can't be everything.

The difference is Robinson is older, has (or used to have) an aggressive mentality, and an NBA body. If he embraces it, he can plug in and play a garbage man role right now and contribute in 15-20 mpg at a high level, IF there is structure around him. Leonard we're trying to develop into a defensive post and offensive post presence from scratch. His only skill is a pretty jump shot, which he is tentative to take. Bad rebounder, terrible defender. So I think there is a big difference, Robinson should be less of a project, I think in the right situation he can contribute now.