Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free agent."

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    I recall several people questioning the Oden pick. The "honk once, honk twice" billboard existed for a reason--because there was legitimate debate. I certainly supported the Oden pick, but I absolutely understood the arguments of those who wanted Durant.

    Roy was drafted through the pick we got from trading Telfair to Boston, so actually, we could have had both CP3 and Roy. Of course, Roy's knees would still have disintegrated, but it sure would have been a fun ride to have both together.

    The CW on the Miller trade is that it also precipitated that Smith over Faried pick. THAT, IMO, was the bigger mistake in that deal. However, had we drafted CP3, we would never have signed Miller in the first place.

    In any case, it's clear, if you look objectively, that there have been several points over the past decade where management has erred. But that can be said of every team's management. That's the beauty of 20/20 hindsight.
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    "He got hurt..."

    That right there is the crux of the problem. His broken kneecap falls into the "he got hurt" argument. The 3 MF surgeries - not really. The injury that led to the first surgery might have happened in college, but the second and third "injuries" occured when he was no where near a basketball court. Unlike Roy, his issues were not basketball related. His knee was apparently road kill before he ever donned a Blazer uniform - and the team should have known that.
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    Nope, I disagree. It wasn't legitimate lol...anyone in their right mind was going to take Oden, and they did. The honking campaign was all publicity. They never once seriously considered taking Durant. Sorry, not saying you think this, but anyone who wanted to take Durant over Oden is just stupid.
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    Stupid and correct.
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    I was all for signing him to the big contract, but I wasn't the GM. I wasn't part of the training staff that had already given the Blazers a warning that his meniscus was failing.

    O'relly?!

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ba...-wouldn-t-have-drafted-Greg-Od?urn=nba,268861

    http://www.nba.com/news/toppick_debate.html

    And even this board had major debates on Oden vs. Durant. BTW, I was for drafting Oden; but I didn't know about the health concerns.

    Utah and NO were relevant during the times CP3 and Dwill were on their team. We still had an opportunity to draft Roy; probably not Aldridge though. So you are saying you would rather have Aldridge than CP3?

    There was no surprise that Aldridge led the lead in Dunks and had his "LaMonster" year when miller was part of the system. Miller was more valuable to this franchise than you think.

    The only thing you busted is your asshole, from talking out of it on this response.
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    You want to get down to brass tacks, why the fuck did the Blazers even draft Roy? He already had messed up knees and surgeries under his belt...

    What a terrible decision they made, drafting Brandon Roy. Worst management ever.

    You literally sit there with 20/20 hindsight and point out all these perceived bad decisions THAT WERE ACTUALLY GOOD decisions at the time...but that doesn't matter to you or a few others on this thread, what matters is that it turned out unfortunate. Then you get to point fingers.

    It must be so hard being you.


    What kind of retarded GM is going to base his draft solely off of performance metrics anyway? That statement means nothing.

    And what are you saying...if we had DWill or CP3, you think the team would have sucked still and we would've traded for #6 to draft Roy?

    Give me a break. You ain't never gonna reach these straws bro.
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    Yeah you're right man. I wish I could talk and pump my chest like you. I bet you knew all along about everything panning out the way it did.

    Like superman or something...
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    So you go around and post your baseless opinions and then get butthurt when I call you out on it? Makes sense...
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    I'm not butt hurt. I think you're cute. You remind me of that chicken hawk from looney tunes.

    Impressive
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    Lol, man... I don't even know why I decided to respond to your comments. I could have accomplished more by bashing my head into a brick wall.

    It's not like your comments were an abnormality. You do it allll the tiiiime. I just never bothered to respond before.
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    I like your posts, C_note. Almost spot on in their entirety.

    I would have taken Durant, played LMA at C, and kept ZBo at PF. Like you said, though, nobody could fault the pick of Oden... There was LeBron like hype around the guy, once in a decade franchise player, etc. it was quite evident that Durant was a home run pick, though.

    I also don't see why marquee FAs wouldn't sign with Portland. Money is just as green in the Pacific Northwest, Durant seems to be doing just fine in OKC, and as mentioned, Hibbert actually did sign.
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    Ah man that sucks. I mean it's so important that a superman macho forum tough guy likes me. Whatever shall I do? Do you think I'll ever be tough and cool like you?
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    Yeah 'cuz that's how a forum works. You get to read other people spewing bullshit all the time, but don't you dare challenge them on it!! They might call you a "superman macho forum tough guy".
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    You got that right! I mean only the thick skin survive right? Maybe I can be the forum tough guy like you?

    Fact is, I have you my insight and others did to. Hell even Denny would have rather had Durant over oden.

    But that's behind is man because you spoken and you will yell at anyone that disagrees! Scary!!!
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    To be fair, he's right about everything else. Including that the pick was as foregone a conclusion as it could be. Even if it had Bowie v2.0 written all over it.
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    Possible, but then again; Roy was just diagnosed with losing all his meniscus in one knee and the other was already degrading. Our management made a stupid mistake and signed him to a max contract.

    I love Roy; but that is a serious red flag and even people in this forum argued over it.

    As for being right about the pick. Yeah I wanted oden too; but he claimed everyone wanted oden; which wasn't the case. Even people in blazer management; which I provided in quotes; showed picking oden was a red flag.

    Then if you think he was right about picking Webster over cp3 or d will; then I just don't know what to say. This forum erupted on the decision.
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    Why did you come back to the board again??
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    ...and the Head Troll chimes in with the usual bullshit post...
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    Just wow, mags. You didn't read what he wrote and just argued for the sake of it?

    Who were you going to take instead of Roy at #6? Randy Foye? JJ Redick? Roy was an outstanding pick.
     
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    Re: Bitter Truth: "Portland will never, ever, ever be able to sign a marquee free age

    Didn't say the pick Denny. I said the contract.
     
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