<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RashadzMcCantz @ Sep 13 2006, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ben Wallace's job is to defend and be a presence in the paint. He's a center and his job is to defend. He averaged 2 spg,2bpg,12 rpg and is the most complete defensive player in the league. When the Detroit Pistons won the championship they didn't need points from Ben Wallace, they needed him to stop Shaquille O'neal and he did just that. Most teams couldn't beat the Lakers because they had no answer to Shaquille O'neal, Ben Wallace gave them that presence and that body to bang Shaq inside the paint.</div> Shaquille O'Neal was often double teamed inside...etc...it was not just Ben Wallace shutting him down. Again, he averages a lot of rebounds and used to average a lot of blocks, we understand that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RashadzMcCantz @ Sep 13 2006, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ben Wallace's job is to defend and be a presence in the paint. He's a center and his job is to defend. He averaged 2 spg,2bpg,12 rpg and is the most complete defensive player in the league. When the Detroit Pistons won the championship they didn't need points from Ben Wallace, they needed him to stop Shaquille O'neal and he did just that. Most teams couldn't beat the Lakers because they had no answer to Shaquille O'neal, Ben Wallace gave them that presence and that body to bang Shaq inside the paint.</div>just proves how little you know. Shaq average 26.6 ppg and 10.8 rebounds in the finals against the pistons while shooting 63% from the field. You call that stopping him? give me a break. The pistons won that series bc Detroit wanted it more. Chauncey and Rip both got 21 ppg, and flat out dominated the laker backcourt.owned.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RashadzMcCantz @ Sep 13 2006, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ben Wallace's job is to defend and be a presence in the paint. He's a center and his job is to defend. He averaged 2 spg,2bpg,12 rpg and is the most complete defensive player in the league. When the Detroit Pistons won the championship they didn't need points from Ben Wallace, they needed him to stop Shaquille O'neal and he did just that. Most teams couldn't beat the Lakers because they had no answer to Shaquille O'neal, Ben Wallace gave them that presence and that body to bang Shaq inside the paint.</div>Ben Wallace didnt stop Shaquiell O'neal.Game 1: 34 points and 11 reboundsGame 2: 29 points and 7 reboundsGame 3: 14 points and 8 reboundsGame 4: 36 points and 20 reboundsGame 5: 20 points and 8 reboundsOver this 5 game series, Shaq averaged 27 points per game and 11 rebounds per game. If you call that "stopping Shaq" you must be retarted. The reason the pistons won was because THEY HAD CHEMISTRY and because THEY PLAY WELL TOGETHER, and because they are BALANCED ON OFFENSE AND DEFENSE. You just defended the detroit pistons basically because it obviously wasnt Ben Wallace that stopped Shaq, it was the Pistons who stopped the Lakers. Just stop now before you make yourself look any worse.Edit: damnit dogma, you beat me to the punch
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Sep 13 2006, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>just proves how little you know. Shaq average 26.6 ppg and 10.8 rebounds in the finals against the pistons while shooting 63% from the field. You call that stopping him? give me a break. The pistons won that series bc Detroit wanted it more. Chauncey and Rip both got 21 ppg, and flat out dominated the laker backcourt.owned.</div>Dude shut up, when me and you had our debate you thought the Detroit Pistons won the title in 2002. <span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">OWNED</span>Ben Gordon can't become a franchise player but tell me who on the Pistons is a franchise player. Not Billups or Hamilton, and if you're going to tell me that Rasheed Wallace is a franchise player then you're retarded.
What are you talking about Rashadz? Shaq completely annihlated Ben wallace in 2004. Last season he destroyed Ben. In the 2004-2005 he owned Ben.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RashadzMcCantz @ Sep 13 2006, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude shut up, when me and you had our debate you thought the Detroit Pistons won the title in 2002. <span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">OWNED</span>Ben Gordon can't become a franchise player but tell me who on the Pistons is a franchise player. Not Billups or Hamilton, and if you're going to tell me that Rasheed Wallace is a franchise player then you're retarded.</div>hey, who won that debate gain rashad? OWNED!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Sep 14 2006, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys settle down with the name calling please, come on.</div>The guy thinks Ben wallace stopped Shaq. :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: Oh god, ben is sooooo overrated.
Stop acting like children you guys, you take a simple debate and turn into a little 3rd grade hissy fit. Knock it off.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RashadzMcCantz @ Sep 13 2006, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude shut up, when me and you had our debate you thought the Detroit Pistons won the title in 2002. <span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">OWNED</span>Ben Gordon can't become a franchise player but tell me who on the Pistons is a franchise player. Not Billups or Hamilton, and if you're going to tell me that Rasheed Wallace is a franchise player then you're retarded.</div>umm, I never once said they won it in 2002. that was just a blatant lie. I got mixed up and said they made it to the finals bc dwyane wade got injured. it was just a mix-up, nothing to do with a lack of knowledge. and that is so typical that after I completely proved you wrong you would change the subject to something that happened a few weeks ago. Billups isn't a franchise player? oh please, he got the same numbers as MVP Steve Nash, 18/9. If I remember right Rip got 22 ppg last season. that's leaps and bounds beyond anyone ont he bulls offensively.BCB: we are in the middle of a debate. don't lock the topic.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Sep 13 2006, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>umm, I never once said they won it in 2002. that was just a blatant lie. I got mixed up and said they made it to the finals bc dwyane wade got injured. it was just a mix-up, nothing to do with a lack of knowledge. and that is so typical that after I completely proved you wrong you would change the subject to something that happened a few weeks ago. Billups isn't a franchise player? oh please, he got the same numbers as MVP Steve Nash, 18/9. If I remember right Rip got 22 ppg last season. that's leaps and bounds beyond anyone ont he bulls offensively.BCB: we are in the middle of a debate. don't lock the topic.</div> This crap needs to end now or it's being locked, no more 'owned' crap or namecalling.
I said 'owned' as a joke. and really, the name calling hasn't been bad at all. this is the most active topic on bbw at the moment, NO use in closing it.
Rashad, I spell Shaq's name wrong...big deal. Is that all you can find to argue from my arguement. Please, try to enlighten me on how Ben Wallace did better than any center in the league in his failed attempt to guard Shaq.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RashadzMcCantz @ Sep 13 2006, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>im done.</div>ownedShaq > Ben WallaceOwned him since Ben Wallace came into the league. Destroyed Wallace and co this year too in the playoffs. Wallace can't stop Shaq. Not even 34 year old Shaq.
