I'm not opposed to self defense either. My beef is with stand your ground laws. If someone uses a gun to kill someone (or lesser crimes), they should be held accountable.
That wasn't your argument. You stated it was a "stand your ground" case, not a "self-defense" case. Lots of luck untying yourself from your logical Gordian knot into which you've contorted yourself. Exactly what didn't the jury understand so they found Zimmerman not guilty of both 2nd degree murder and manslaughter? Exactly what did the Sanford police miss that they chose not to charge him the first time? Please, explain to us how you're so much smarter than the legal system. I'm all eyes.
And therefore the very reason many men and women prefer to be armed. You do know Rachel Jeantel now says Trayvon was attacking George Z. right? Whoop Ass! Imagine that! Whoop Ass on the neighborhood watch! What the fuck kind of training did this kid get? Hard to feel sorry for a bugger of this order.
http://sportstwo.com/threads/240978-Zimmerman-Case-Lightning-Rod?p=3062119&viewfull=1#post3062119 (and the post after) http://sportstwo.com/threads/240978-Zimmerman-Case-Lightning-Rod?p=3062125&viewfull=1#post3062125
Baloney. Again Denny, the stand your ground component of self defense in Florida is irrelevant if retreat is impossible.
The only one winning in all of this is Denny. All the posting has raised his income to the point that he is now a 1%'er. Congrats Denny!
Golly, you're just so much smarter than the attorneys prosecuting and defending the case, the judge, the vast majority of the legal analysts covering the case, the Sanford police who declined to press charges and the jury who heard the case. You're even smarter than my old college debating partner who happens to be an Florida Assistant State Attorney. He think Barack Obama is too far to the right, sees racism everywhere and predicted disaster for the prosecution. Again, Denny, please show us why we're all so dumb and you're so brilliant.
That's silly. Human bodies are incredibly fragile. A good hard fist to any of several points on a person's head or neck is capable of killing a human being. Happens every day even though the idiot throwing the punch usually doesn't intend to kill the person. Any punch to the head will cause a degree of brain damage, which may not be noticed until later in life. Ask Ali about the effects of getting hit in the head, then imagine it without the padded gloves.
Ask your brilliant attorney friend about the jury instructions, which state specifically that Zimmerman had no duty to retreat. I bet you won't. I dare you.
Sigh. It's up to the attorneys to make their cases and for the juries to decide the cases based on the evidence presented. It's not up to the juries to make up their own evidence or arguments. And Errol is hardly brilliant. He's just happens to be an Assistant State Attorney and knew more than the average bear about the case and the evidence. He's as left as they come, and he knew this case was political. You're still throwing out red herrings. Sorry, but we're not biting.
The jury instructions stated Zimmerman did not have the duty to retreat. So duh, the jury didn't consider that he didn't retreat. Read the damned jury instructions. http://sportstwo.com/threads/240978-...=1#post3062119 (and the post after) http://sportstwo.com/threads/240978-...=1#post3062125
Is someone getting angry the argument isn't going their way? Read slowly, so you may digest the message: The jury evaluates the evidence presented. No one argued Zimmerman was not guilty because of Florida's "Stand Your Ground" statute.
http://themartialist.net/?p=306 Shockingly (heh) rightist blogs also character assassinated the white victim in the name of keeping gun rights masturbators happy.
I'm a gun rights defender, and I'm certainly a masturbator, but does that make me a gun rights masturbator?
I guessed you missed it last time I said it Examiners already said his injuries aren't consistent with getting his head bashed into the pavement. It's that simple. It's also not even known if he actually broke his nose. Right to kill him based on that? Nope. Since when does losing a fight mean you get to shoot someone? The right to self-defense was grossly applied here.
