Has reality set in yet?

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  1. Boise Blazer

    Boise Blazer Thread Lightly

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    Hickson has a fairly reliable jumper but yes there are some similiarities
     
  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    CJ is way better than Bayless.

    J-Bay could only drive and draw contact. Half his points were from foul shots. He couldn't shoot, in SL or during the regular season. CJ is a shooter. His shooting percentage has gotten worse as SL has gone on, but he is miles ahead of Bayles at this point. The two are nothing alike.
     
  3. Ed O

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    Well, Bayless already had two summer leagues under his belt by the time he was McCollum's age, so it's tough to compare where CJ is right now to where Bayless was as a Blazer.

    With that being said: Bayless was never and will never be the kind of deep shooter than McCollum is, and that is obviously a critical skill for tweener guards their size.

    Ed O.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Well that's really the point, CJ is a shooter and Bayless was/is not. CJ reminds me of Jamal Crawford a lot.
     
  5. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    And to the mannerism and well spoken style of communication.
     
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    Was that what the bench scored last season? I knew they were pretty weak, but I thought they scored more than that.

    Go Blazers
     
  7. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I remember seeing 8.8 ppg on TNT around the final 10 games
     
  8. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    The well-known correlation is that players who are bad in SL will be bad in regular season. Those who are great in SL will not necessarily be good in the regular.

    Exceptions like Batum are explained by saying that it's a guard's league. None of this bodes well for McCollum, who has been 10% the player that Roy was in the last SL.

    Most SL teams contain 2-3 players who will be at the bottom of the regular season roster. Our SL contains 7 players who will comprise the entire bottom half of our roster. Thus, our SL failure this year is more predictive than usual of a frustrating season coming up.
     
  9. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    In fairness to CJ, these are his first games after his foot injury.
     
  10. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    I knew it! The old foot injury excuse, eh?
     
  11. blazerboy30

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    Are we REALLY already starting with jlprk's irrational rants and bashing of a Blazer, this time CJ, after seeing 3 SL games? Really?
     
  12. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yeah, because we all know it's the bottom 7 guys on your roster that win championships. Screw the Heat and their Big 3, the key to winning the championship is upgrading our Little 7.

    Seriously, adding Wright and Watson alone makes our bench better. All our bench needs to do this year is not be the worst bench in the entire 65 year history of the NBA and it will be an improvement.

    BNM
     
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    No offense, but 8.8 is so historically bad I had to go looking for that stat.

    http://ripcityproject.com/2013/07/13/portland-trail-blazers-bench-player-upgrade/

    18.5 is still pathetic, but it's a lot more than 9.

    Go Blazers
     
  14. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I just remembered on TNT they had something like that. It's not like I've been wrong before.

    Anyway, it still is a good sign because even if T.Rob could average what he did last year buried deep in the bench; he would still average close to half the points we did from last season.
     
  16. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    We made it past the first round! How are we a failure?:lol:
     
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    SL - SUCCESS
    RS - TBD
    PO - TBD


    One down, two to go!
     
  18. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Dorell Wright, CJ and TRob should combine to average more than 18.5ppg off the bench between them. Throw in a few more ppg from Leonard, Claver, Barton, Freeland and our bench scoring should be somewhere in the 25 - 30 ppg range, possibly more.

    BNM
     
  19. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    That idea hadn't occurred to me until I read his self-review after the Hawks game. It's his 4th game since January, so I'll cut him some slack for his inefficiencies. Thanks for the reminder.
     
  20. KeepOnRollin

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    It is pretty funny that we have to cut him some slack when he most likely is going to be MVP of the SL.
     

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