So if Trayvon beat him to unconsciousness, then he wouldn't have kept on..he would have bandaged up his wounds and nursed him back to safety? He also wouldn't have stolen his gun (despite indications on Trayvon's cell phone he was looking to get a gun).
My opinion did change. Last year, when only a few facts were available and the media jumped on this story disseminating a lot of untruths and half-truths, I had the idea that Zimmerman, a trained fighter and wannabe copy, who was larger and weighed more than skinny child, had lied about his claim of self-defense and fearing for his life, because there was no way this MAN could be overpowered by a CHILD, and because (as was reported at the time of the incident) he had no visible injuries. The more time passed, the more the truth seeped out (you sometimes had to look for it). Well before the trial, I had changed my mind about Zimmerman's guilt. The trial was a disaster for the prosecution, so that only confirmed the change. It is people that can't adjust to facts, reality, changing information, new information, etc. that drive me crazy.
I wasn't there. You weren't there. I'm merely saying, if what he said was true, and Martin was on top of him and was slamming his head into the ground, the shoot would be justified. Losing a fight is one thing, but when someone has you in a position of submission, and they show no signs of letting up, you are justified to defend yourself. How many people have been beaten into a coma or to the point of brain damage because they "lost a fight"? There's a reason why fighting is called "assault". It's nothing like the movies and people get seriously hurt.
In 45 seconds (which isn't exactly a short fight) Zimmerman sustained only minor injuries. Can't say it enough. But he "feared for his life". No, he's just a pussy who pulled a gun. Weak shit.
There is no point whatsoever in the natural right of self-defense, if in order to exercise such right, you must be at death's door.
What happens after 2 minutes of pounding one's head on the ground? You know, if Zimmerman didn't act quick and defend himself?
What the fuck is a regular fight? A smart man in a fight assumes death is seconds away and it's your responsibility to see the other fellow is the first to go. You should read you the law, Oregon Revised Statutes 161. Especially161.209 since you live in Oregon. Florida also permits use of force in self defense. Take note, there was no referee present when Trayvon went work on Whoop Ass. http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/161.html
Dude, like I have said The medical examiners basically said the way Zimmerman described Martin bashing his head in is not consistent with the injuries he suffered. It's right there in front you, stop ignoring it. He pulled a gun like a punk and got off because of the law being grossly applied.
Wrong again. One punch from just a few months ago from a soccer teenager killed a grown man after putting him into a coma. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/05/ricardo-portillo-soccer-referee-dies_n_3219305.html SALT LAKE CITY (Associated Press) -- Family members of a Utah soccer referee who died a week after a player punched him in the head called on athletes around the world Sunday night to hold their tempers in check so another family doesn't have to suffer. They spoke at a candlelight vigil held on the front lawn of the Salt Lake City home of Ricardo Portillo, 46. Wearing white shirts and holding signs that read, "In loving memory of Ricky," family and friends stood around a table that had a picture of Portillo raising his arms in victory, with flowers and candles surrounding it. Police have accused a 17-year-old player in a recreational soccer league of punching Portillo after he called a foul on him and issued him a yellow card. Portillo died Saturday night after a week in a coma. "He was a father, he was a friend, he was a grandfather, he left a whole family behind," said Johana Portillo, the oldest of his three daughters. "They should think before they do something stupid." The suspect has been booked into juvenile detention on suspicion of aggravated assault. Authorities will consider additional charges since Portillo has passed away. An autopsy is planned. No cause of death was released. Asked if she can forgive the teenager, Johana Portillo said she hopes to someday, but isn't ready yet. She said Sunday she doesn't care what the punishment becomes since it won't bring back her father. She only hopes he can't get out and do the same thing to somebody else, she said. "I feel sorry for him. I feel for his family," she said. "But if he was old enough to do what he did, then he's responsible to pay for it."
According to Zimmerman, Martin found the gun and was trying to grab it. Zimmerman beat him too it. Just out of curiosity, would you just sit there and take an asskicking, and then when you think the attacker is going for your gun, let him shoot you? The contortions LIVs are putting themselves through to keep up their ridiculous ideas going about this act of self-defense are actually quite funny, looking back on them. Denny has "SYG Tourrettes", which wasn't even brought up during trial, and only during routine jury instructions. The one juror in public now says they had to acquit based on 'self-defense', even though she now thinks the law should be changed. All emotion and an inability to admit any wrong. It's Obama's Americal
The medical examiner who said this didn't even examine Zimmerman, only photos. She was destroyed on the stand, and it doesn't matter, anyhow, since it has no bearing on a self-defense acquittal. There isn't some line of injury where you are allowed self-defense. My thought? Martin got talked into beating down a 'gay rapist' (hate crime) by his idiotic girlfriend, and he picked on the wrong guy.
It looks like someone doesn't know what "lynching" is. Trayvon Martin wasn't lynched. He was shot in a conflict with another person. These people want George Zimmerman to pay for killing him, no matter what our justice system says. THAT's lynching by a lynch mob.
