Nuggets. And no I am not sucking up to Tony. They got another scorer and a decent shooting guard in JR Smith. All they really have lost is Elson who can be replaced by Joe Smith. They had a quite but underrated off-season. The Suns, yes the Suns. People seem to foget there also is a chance Amare could be as sucessful as JKidd after his surgery. If that is the case they could easily take the chip. Gotta show some love to my C's. Upgraded interior D and point guard situation. Can't wait for the season to start!
Overrated:Bulls- We havent even seen them play a game with all the new players they've added and already people are predicting that they have a shot at the Finals. Raptors - Just because they made a few aqquistions during the offseason does NOT make them a playoff contender yet.Underrated: Pistons - Everyone says they'll win only around 45 games without Big Ben. Is that a fricking joke? They aqquired a decent C in Nazr who can get the job done. Not to mention Tayshaun is improving his game year by year. They also added Flip Murray for depth.Wizards - I'm not being biased here, we have a CHANCE to win 50 games. I think it can happen. No, we didnt have the greatest offseason ever, but it went pretty well. We aqquired some international players in the draft who can shoot the lights out, and we aqquired a good veteran in Songaila who can distribute the ball. Then we added DeShawn for a BARGAIN. The guy knows how to play defense, at least.
The Bulls seem to be the most overrated, I'm seeing people put them over the Pistons and even the defending champs. It truely baffles me.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: I really think Orlando could surprise a lot of people. I really like the duo of Howard and Nelson, and don't forget Turkoglu's shooting. I hope that Donny Darko keeps improving, and guys like Dooling, Arroyo and Ariza can give some valuable minutes too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Sep 12 2006, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Underrated-Timberwolves, Knicks, PistonsOverrated-Bulls, Suns, Lakers anyone?</div>The Timberwolves and Knicks aren't underrated. :no3: They just suck.Underrated: New Jersey NetsI'm not stating the Nets just because it's my favorite team. The truth is: people won't admit that VC, RJ & JKidd make a deadly trio. They get 10 to 15 winning streaks every season, yet people don't think of that as much. If the Spurs do a 10 to 15 winning streak, everyone notices. People don't admit that the Nets have a great team. They just lack in the C/PF spots. I know Nenad Krstic will become a good Center, but he's not the Net's guy right now. They need someone else. Also, Clifford Robinson is getting old. I suggest replacing him in the PF spot.Overrated: Chicago BullsPeople are already saying that the Bulls will win the Finals championship. I wouldn't even claim that about a team even in the beginning of the playoffs. I wait until all other contenders are eliminated in both conferences and two teams are left. Then I make my prediction. You never know who will win the championship. For instance, this past season Miami won. I read in Slam Magazine the staffs' predictions about who would win the championship. They claimed either Detroit would take it or San Antonio. Nobody said anything about Miami winning or Dallas being close. That's why I think the Bulls are overrated. They just got some good players over the off season and people are expecting them to be the Boston Celtics when Red Auerbach was coaching them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Sep 12 2006, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Timberwolves and Knicks aren't underrated. :no3: They just suck.</div>You obviously dont know much if you think that the Timberwolves are going to suck. They have one of the best big men in the league in KG, Ricky Davis, Randy Foye(who could possibly be the best rookie this season, and Mike James at the pg spot. That is a pretty good starting lineup. Sure, their center isnt that great but he is average. Minnessota is in a weak division and they could make it in to the playoffs. They are far from a "sucky" team.
Underrated:Knicks- We have talent this year. Maybe the new coach when Isiah gets fired will do a better job who knows Pistons- Flip sacraficed losing Ben Wallace. But he did somethings to make they team stilll a team to beat. He added depth. With Nazr I think he can do the same job as Big Ben but that much like him. Murray off the bench is a good addition.Lakers- People think they are overrated but look at that team,last year 45 wins. And our only above avererage players are Kobe and Odom and we got almost 45. If Smush and Kwame were consistant then we had a chance to get more wins. Last year I though we were a mediocore team. Next year With some solid bench players now with Vlad and Evans we have a shot to win 50 games next year.Indiana Pacers- If JO stays healthy. JO and Al's past chemistry could rise up who knows? With Jaskevisious being there shooter and Granger just getting better and better they look to challenge for the last couple spots for the playoffs.Hornets- Paul just getting better and better. now they have a go to go. Peja. Im sure Paul,Peja, and West trio will be pretty good. Mason finnally working on his jumper. THey dont have a bad beanch to, Mason,Butler,Bobby Jackson.I will post ovverrated later
Overrated: Phoenix Suns. Just because Stoudomire is back, everybody is acting like they're gunna go 82-0. There's a reason why they've had trouble in the playoffs, they can't play D.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Sep 12 2006, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You obviously dont know much if you think that the Timberwolves are going to suck. They have one of the best big men in the league in KG, Ricky Davis, Randy Foye(who could possibly be the best rookie this season, and Mike James at the pg spot. That is a pretty good starting lineup. Sure, their center isnt that great but he is average. Minnessota is in a weak division and they could make it in to the playoffs. They are far from a "sucky" team.</div>Aren't you pretty much saying what everyone is saying about the Bulls? How do we know whether or not the Minnesota Timberwolves will get any better? Wait until the season begins, okay? I'm considering them "sucky" because of the past several seasons. I'm not counting the 06-07 season because, quite frankly, it hasn't begun yet. Now silence, you amateur! Pray to your basketball God! :worthy:
People think the Bulls will contend, but nobody really gives the TWolves any credit for their off season. Sure Mike James could end up being a bad move, but he is a second scorer that will take the weight off KG's shoulders.The New York Knicks are underrated...for now.Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis make up the best backcourt in the league, if you were playing streetball. Of course we aren't, this is organized basketball, but Marbury and Francis still are a huge part of the team. Nate Robinson is learning under Isiah Thomas, which could be good b/c Isiah was amazing, but it could be bad because nobody knows if Isiah knows what he is doing. Then there is the acquisitions of the workhorse Renaldo Balkman and Jared Jefferies, both should help instantly on defense. Don't forget the improving Channing Frye and Eddy Curry. This team is stacked, but they can't win. Maybe they can find some chemestry. Or a set starting lineup. In my eyes, they can't be much worse than last year.
Overrated- Chicago Bulls: This team is the most overhyped team for this upcoming season by far. I am seeing people put this team now as the 1st seed in the East and making the Finals and it's crazy. Sure they added Ben Wallace but he is basically the same player Chandler was just better, way older, and more expensive. They have made other aquisitions but nothing that can make to big of a difference. So basically people are saying Ben Wallace is somehow good enough to make a team a contender. Don't forget they still have no main option on offense.Toronto Raptors: How has this team become a playoff contender all of a sudden? The only noteable move was they finally got themselves a play maker. Other than that, all they did was get a bunch of players at the same position there best player is at and added some no name players. Plus all they mostly did was help their offense which is the one thing they were good at last season. The only main hole they filled was getting a playmaker in TJ Ford. There defense still is horrible and they still basically have not veteran leadership. They will be oward the top of the lottery once again next season.Orlando Magic: I was kind of hesitant with putting them but I do feel they have become slightly overrated due to the fact that people are also predicting them to make the playoffs. I just can't see it yet. People are making this prediction off of too many assumptions. I mean how do we know Darko Milicic will finally break out into the player he was supposed to be? How do we know Dwight Howard becomes the superstar he has the potential to be this season. I mean looking over the roster they don't have much depth or talent past Howard, Nelson, Turkoglu, and Milicic. This team should get closer to the playoff picture and get better, but they just aren't a playoff team yet.Underrated-New York Knicks: Everybody is saying these guys suck and imo that's a pretty ignorant statement. I think after last season people forgot how much talent and depth this team has. I mean they have Marbury, Steve Francis, Eddy Curry, Jalen Rose, Jamal Crawford, Channing Frye, etc. You can also expect a lot of these guys numbers up now that Brown is gone. Brown wasn't letting the players play their game and I think that's why there was a big decrease in a lot of the players production. Thomas will let them play the way they're comfortable playing unlike Brown would. I'm not saying this team is playoff bound this upcoming season bt I will bet you they aren't as horrible as people are making them out to be.Detroit Pistons: Just like with Chicago people are making out Big Ben to be a lot more affective than he really is. Can someone please enlighten me on how Big Ben makes this team go from a 64 win team to a 45-50 win team like so many people think. They still have Chauncey, Rip, Tayshaun, and Rasheed in the starting lineup and they still have great defense. I mean sure Ben was the dpoy but Billups, Prince, and Sheed are all very good on defense also. Plus they did get the best possible FA replacement in Nazr Mohammed and strengthened their bench by aquiring Flip Murray.Utah Jazz: They have a great team and get no recognition at all. I mean they have a great young pure pg in Deron Williams, one of the best all around players in the league in Kirilenko, a very good PF when healthy in Boozer, and a very good underrated C in Okur. They have got themselves their main scoring option for the future in Ronnie Brewer, and strengthened their depth at pg by aquiring Derek Fisher. This team could definetly be a playoff contender this season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Sep 12 2006, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Overrated: Phoenix Suns. Just because Stoudomire is back, everybody is acting like they're gunna go 82-0. There's a reason why they've had trouble in the playoffs, they can't play D.</div>I agree. The thing is: how good will Amare? Will he get back to his old level? I really, really hope so, but I have to see it first.
The knicks are not underrated. they're just not that good. Unless they get rid of Francis, Q-Rich or Starbury IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Sep 13 2006, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude you know nothing about the Knicks at all so why even bother? You didn't even put any thought or reasonng in that post so you proved nothing.</div>Ease up there, Zeke.
the suns are NOT overrated. they won 54 games last year, and now they're gaining a beast that got 27/10 two years ago. okay, so he may not be 100%, but amare at 90% will get you 20-8 at a 55% shooting rate. people tend to forget that the suns lost Kurt Thomas for the end of the season adn the playoffs, a HUGE piece of their defense. I mean, Boris Diaw was their permanent Center! They have more depth this year with Marcus Banks coming off the bench. Now nash won't have to play as many minutes, leaving him more fresh in the playoffs. Not to mention that Marcus Banks is a HELL of a defender.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Toronto Raptors: How has this team become a playoff contender all of a sudden? The only noteable move was they finally got themselves a play maker. Other than that, all they did was get a bunch of players at the same position there best player is at and added some no name players. Plus all they mostly did was help their offense which is the one thing they were good at last season. The only main hole they filled was getting a playmaker in TJ Ford. There defense still is horrible and they still basically have not veteran leadership. They will be oward the top of the lottery once again next season.</div>You shouldnt have posted this. You know im going to come after you if you diss my Raps.How has this team become a playoff contender? Well, they have a great offense, we now have post defense with Rasho, and we have alot more depth and talent. We have Euro flavour, bosh is improving, we have a playmaker pg, and we revampd like 3/5 of the roster. We atleast have a shot at the playoffs.Only noteable move was TJ Ford? Hardly. You obviously havnt been paying attention to our transactions. We got Euro stars Bargnani, Anthony Parker, and Garbajosa, we got an athletic guard in Fred Jones, a new center with good D in Rasho, (who we drafted 2 years back), Kris Humphries, and PJ Tucker. So we obviously have a ton of noteable new players playing for us.Not true. We got Kris Humphries who will play PF, and Garbajosa, but Garb will spend time at C, and SF as well because he can shoot the ball. Andrea will play center almost every time he steps out on the court. So no, not really. Youre wrong there. We got a ton of players that play other positions than PF, who I already listed.Oh really? All the Euro guys are suddenly bad because you have never seen or heard of them? Not true. Colangelo is smart. He has seen them play, and he knows they will be valuable to our team. Plus, Nesterovic and Fred Jones are no-names? I think not. Nesterovic is key for us, because we now finally have a Center who will play defense for us, and Fred Jones who will battle for Anthony Parker for the starting two-guard position. He is very athletic, he can shoot the mid-range, and he can create with his speed.So Nesterovic, Fred Jones, and Anthony Parker arent helping our D at all? Thats where you are wrong. Now Fred and Mo Pete will provide decent perim. D. Nesterovic, Mo Pete, Darrick Martin and others will provide leadership? We didnt fill any holes? What about the 2 guard hole? We completely filled that. We only had one two last year after trading Jalen. Now we have three guys who will spend time there, although Mo will start at the wing. Anthony Parker and Fred Jones definately fill our problems at the two.And our defense will get alot better because of Fred and Nesterovic, trust me. We will still have bad D, but so do the Wizards, and Suns. They are still automatic playoff teams. Toward the top of the lottery? I think not. Lets bet on it then, if you are so sure about that.There ya go. I just dissected your post. nobody gets away with bashing the Raps we'll im watching. :bat:
