Is the NBA better off without physical defense?

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  1. BALLAHOLLIC

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    I dont think so, The game today favors guards. I hate all these new rule changes which shy away from contact on the perimeter. That is why defense today is down and scoring is sky high, They dont allow any contact. Your not allowed to use your hand/arm to block the movement of the ball handler/ slasher.I wish the NBA would go back to the 80's, 90's style of play which in my mind was the most exciting, Too many players are having monster scoring nights because of limited defensive pressure.
     
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    Agree, and this might create more team rivalries which is lacking in the NBA today...........I remember a few years ago cheking the schedule when the lakers will face the kings.Especially in the playoffs they are way too soft, they should referee the game the same way they did in FIBA (more physical play allowed).
     
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    The NBA better off without physical defense? Hell no. The league was much better back in the 90's, 80's, etc. It was extremely physical, much more competitive, mixed emotions, there were actually real rivalries, etc. I wish the NBA would be like that today, the game is better played when it's physical and aggressive.No, that doesn't mean it's ok to throw punches and tackle each other, but the rules are waaay too strict nowadays. If you breath on a superstar too hard, it's a foul. Back then you could talk trash (making the game more competitive), nudge him with an elbow, push off to get open (eh hem.. Reggie Miller), etc. Now, if someone barely taps someone else on the way by, they cry to the ref for a foul - because they learned they can get away with it.I am going to be honest with you, I watched a few WNBA games this year and the play more physical basketball than the NBA. They don't call every single touch or nudge.If we had the 1980's-1990's style rules/toughness/competitiveness, that would make the league much better. You wouldn't have guys whining to the refs as much. You wouldn't have Manu Ginofloply fake charges all the time. You would have competitiveness, and maybe restore/create rivalries again. Back then people ran their mouth all night, now if you say something you get t'd up. I hate that.David Stern should ease up on the calls and restore everything I said above. This is becomming a sissy league more and more, and at this rate by the time 2015 hits we might have to raise the foul limit to 8 or 9 (a little sarcasm, but not really).
     
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    No. Players get points too easily. I think the NBA would be alot greater if guards didnt just get 30-40 points like it's nothing. Refs should go a little easier on interior defenders, I think. The NBA needs to toughen up, and go back to it's form in the 80's-early-mid 90's. I.e. physical defense..
     
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    Physical defense is required. It's getting lame these days. We all saw DWade score 40 ppg against Dallas in the Finals because of some physical play. He didn't really deserve to go to the freethrow line 20 times a game! I remember seeing old highlights of Kevin Johnson dunking on Hakeem Olajuwon. If that happened in this era, it'd be an automatic foul, no basket... Just two freethrow attempts. Man... It's more entertaining to play these days than to watch (in my opinion). Players score 50 points like nothing. You see guys go to the freethrow line like 18 times per game. Kobe went to the freethrow line 10 times per game everytime I watched the Lakers play. It's down-right annoying.
     
  6. BrewCityBuck

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    NBA fans and people were bitching about the low scoring so the NBA changed the rules and rumbling about this is starting...I hate the way the league is right now, every guard is allowed free entry to the basket and if your touched your fouled, but if your a post player you can bang your opponent and it's not a foul, it's such bull. Why do you think Ray Allen is scoring more than normal? Why do you think Michael Redd is scoring more than normal? Why do you think Allen Iverson is still going strong and had his best year? Gilbert Arenas? Dwyane Wade? LeBron James? I'm tired of these rules, it inflates these guards numbers making them look better than they really are. Nobody in the NBA is allowed to play tough perimeter defense.
     
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    It depends on what perspective you use to look at the game. Is it better in terms of the actual game of basketball? Nope. Physicality is a natural part of the game, and getting rid of it just takes away a huge aspect of the game.Is the NBA better off with the new rule changes when you look at it as a business? Yes, obviously it is. More points means more excitement... more excitement attracts more fans (whether they are casual fans or eventually become hardcore fans)... more fans leads to more money. Simple as that.
     
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    I don't really like it. Defense is just as exciting as offense to me and I hate how easy it is for some players. I would've just loved to see Dampier throw Wade down without a foul called.
     
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    See, the thing is that most REAL basketball fans, meaning those of us who actually appreciate the game and really know about it, enjoy watching physical defense, etc. However, Stern being the businessman that he is, realized that in order to attract more fans he needed to boost the scoring numbers, especially since scoring went down on average in '02-03 (I believe that was the year... all I remember was that it was the same year T-Mac led the league with 28ppg).If you've rarely watched an NBA game before, and you turn the TV on and see a slow-paced, physical game you probably aren't going to watch for too long, are you? You'd be hooked on to a product that is more fast-paced and exciting, and that it is exactly what the current rules provide us with. Also, in order to increase marketability of the NBA's superstar players, they need to be more exciting, etc.Do these rules distort the statistics of today's players compared to those players from the 90's? Absolutely, but times change, and the NBA adapts. Stern has always led the NBA with a business-first mentality.
     
  10. pjcolpitts?

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    All they are going to do to the game is turn it into And1 basketball. And that is not real basketball. I just hate how if you even touch a guy your getting a foul called on you. I pretty much agree with everyone on this. I love seeing the Bulls and Pistons games from the late 80's and early 90's when the "Jordan Rules" were in effect with the Pistons. Jordan would take a licking in the games and just come back stronger the next time. If the Pistons did that with Wade, they would have to forfeit the game due to the lack of players. All the physical play is what made 80's NBA basketball the greatest of all time. You actaully had rivalries. Celtics and Lakers, Bulls and Pistons, Bulls and Knicks. Some of the best basketball ever. If you watch the games were fights break out, players weren't given a 10 game suspensions. They weren't given anything. Thats what makes it great. I think the players of that day enjoyed the game and all the physicalness of the game. All the handchecking and getting knocked down if you tried to cut across the lane. Like I said before, all the NBA is going to end up is And1 basketball if they keep in the same direction. :no3:
     
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    What frustrates me is the inconsistency of the refs do now. Devin Harris gets banged up on one side of the court while D. Wade gets touched and there's a foul. I hate superstar treatment. Everyone should be treated the same. Back to the topic I would rather there be physical defense like FIBA.
     

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