Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? Yeah, I agree with a lot of what you said...a bunch of it IS contradictory...but I do agree with him when he was talking about the Pentagon...not that the plane had to bounce of the ground just the evidence left after the "plane" crash doesn't measure up to what it should look like..the graphics he provided were pretty convincing...what happened to the wings...they didnt just disenegrate...why were the walls sorrounding still standing - the hole was way too smal...nothing left over from the crash...its kinda hard to beleive there wasnt anything at all...I mean, you're gonna say it burned away..but theres no way it burned EVERYthing....
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? people forget to mention that the wall hit by the plane had been recently reinforced with kevlar I believe. also, going 500MPH a plane hitting a building would be a lot like throwing an egg at a brick wall.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Sep 26 2006, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>people forget to mention that the wall hit by the plane had been recently reinforced with kevlar I believe. also, going 500MPH a plane hitting a building would be a lot like throwing an egg at a brick wall.</div>so you're saying the wings just disenegrated - so did the 4 engines? How about all of the luggage...there was absolutely NO evidence that a plane, a boeing 757 crashed into the pentagon...nothing.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Sep 26 2006, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>there was absolutely NO evidence that a plane, a boeing 757 crashed into the pentagon...nothing.</div>Uh, yeah there was.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? Wings are made from ligher materials, and when they hit they most likely would have been pushed back into the fireball of the plane. the fireball most likely would have also distoried the luggage, and if it wasn't distroied than, it would have been by the ensuing fire after the crash.People keep trying to compare the 9/11 plane crashes to other plane crashes and you can't. before 9/11 there were no plane crashes where a plane hit a major structure. most plane crashes occure in feilds or mountains, so there is wreckage to find. but when you crash a plane into a building stuff is going to burn a lot more.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Sep 26 2006, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>so you're saying the wings just disenegrated - so did the 4 engines? How about all of the luggage...there was absolutely NO evidence that a plane, a boeing 757 crashed into the pentagon...nothing.</div>No evidence when you exclude the hundreds of people who saw it happen.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Sep 26 2006, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>so you're saying the wings just disenegrated - so did the 4 engines? How about all of the luggage...there was absolutely NO evidence that a plane, a boeing 757 crashed into the pentagon...nothing.</div>The wings on an airplane might as well be made of paper. They are specifically designed to bend, wobble and fluctuate in order to prevent from breaking off during flight. In fact, all wings on commercial jetliners are tested to safely bend close to 70 degrees. On top of that they are mostly filled with fuel. Redneck is right, a plane flying into a re-enforced concrete wall would basically disintegrate. At 500+ MPH, it would leave nothing more than a hole in the ground.Also, a 757 has two engines.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Becar @ Sep 27 2006, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No evidence when you exclude the hundreds of people who saw it happen.</div>And the wheels and other crap that was all over the ground.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Sep 26 2006, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wings are made from ligher materials, and when they hit they most likely would have been pushed back into the fireball of the plane. the fireball most likely would have also distoried the luggage, and if it wasn't distroied than, it would have been by the ensuing fire after the crash.People keep trying to compare the 9/11 plane crashes to other plane crashes and you can't. before 9/11 there were no plane crashes where a plane hit a major structure. most plane crashes occure in feilds or mountains, so there is wreckage to find. but when you crash a plane into a building stuff is going to burn a lot more.</div>Don't forget that in 99% of all plane crashes the pilots are actually trying to prevent the crash from happening hence, they often crash at lower speeds allowing for more debris to be left. A lot of Plane crashes happen at less that 350 mph, and a lot of crashes happen out of crash-landing attempts. There is test footage of jet propelled planes on tracks crashing into re-enforced concrete walls. Nothing is left behind. A plane isn't a locomotive, it's designed to be light, therefore if it's flown into a strong enough surface (like the pentagon) at, around or more than 500mph it will basically disintegrate.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? lol whatever man...I think all that is bs....there was a tiny little hole in the building and thats it...the fricken walls were still up around the hole....I honestly dont believe every single piece of airplane just vanished into dust.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? Remember that the Pentagon walls are re-enforced concrete. If the fusulage of the plane hit the windows, then the wings would have disintegrated upon hitting the walls. Wings aren't made of much other than light weight alloys. They wouldn't hold up against a light post let alone a concrete wall.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Sep 27 2006, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol whatever man...I think all that is bs....there was a tiny little hole in the building and thats it...the fricken walls were still up around the hole....I honestly dont believe every single piece of airplane just vanished into dust.</div>It didn't vanish, it either burned away, or broke into smaller pieces. look at the pictures, the building collapsed around what wreckage there would be left.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? At impact thats now how it looked...all u could see was a hole...the sorrounding area collapsed after the crash...so those pics dont say anything....theres only a hole...no collapsed walls or even damage to the top where the tail of the plane would have hit, or the 2 sides where the wings would have hit...see wat im gettin at?
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? Thats the same picture as this one. only this picture doesn't have a blue thing where there should be damage. that picture you have looks doctored. because no way would damage/smoke be in that patteren, not even if it was a "bomb", and why is there fire retardend when there appears to be no fire fighters on site. also noticed in the righthand corner, something that says spring that seems to disappear.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? lol are u joking...there were no fire fighters? of course there was.heres some more:if u want more, I've got more.There was no damage done to the sorrounding parts of the whole...and I KNOW that the wings and the tail didnt just go to dust...
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? Dude, you'd be VERY supprised at what a plane is made out of. The skin is almost like paper, on the B-52's the skin would get all wrinkly while the plane was on the ground. Wings aren't too different, except for a little re-enforcement along the front edges. A 500mph collision with a concrete wall would COMPLETELY desrtroy them.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? where did you learn about the materials used for wings and tails of a plane? I've been trying to search for this - and I can't find a thing.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? I used to work for McDonnel-Douglas back in the early 90's. I hated the job but, I picked up a lot of info. Also, there are a lot of published works out there however, I'm not sure about the internet.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? ahh ok - I dont know what McDonnel-Douglas does, but sounds like you know what you're talking about...but I still don't beleive a 757 caused that damage...I mean - 9/11 to me is just a big mess...it seems really fishy for some reason to me...I just get a gut feeling that something about it wasn't right...plus, I won't totally rule out government intervention because it's been already done before....there are plenty of vietnam stories, and plenty of Pearl harbor stories that make me not trust the media, or the government...hey it could also be because im arab lol...I totally do not suppor tthis war in any way....not one aspect of it, not even taking out Saddam. I honestly think that this whole thing was arranged for a bigger scheme - I don't know what that is, yet, but I think theres more to this whole war than what "they" are telling us. One of the motives could be just money from oil...I think sometime in the future, that we will eventually invade Syria.Basically, it's fulfilling the U.S. long term goals set up by people like Wolfowitz.There is so much to this, I need a book to write down all of my thoughts...I'm not one to just believe everything because I'm exposed to both sides of the news...that is: the Arab/Muslim side, and the American side to it...so Yeah. This is def a good topic tho...its just way too vast.
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault? Yeah, you have a good point. USA is in a mess, and we aren't very popular anymore.As for 9/11, I don't think the government was in on it. In fact, Politics is not even a strong point of mine. So, I feel a little awkward about this.
