hypothetical lillard/irving question

That is fine, you are just a homer (as am I in MANY other areas that have to do with the Blazers).

The NBA is too unpredictable. Irving could just as easily play all 82 games the next two seasons and Lillard could get hurt (knocking on wood that it doesn't happen!).

 

Call me what you want but I'll take a healthier point guard with a chiseled 5.9% body fat over the one who is injured ALL 3 of the past seasons with 10.2%.

 

Honestly body fat has no bearing in this discussion. There are Hall of Fame players with very high body fat (Barkley is just one quick example). And there are plenty of players in the league with low body fat who are scrubs.

Injuries is all you had to mention (and you did) and I would agree that it is concerning.

 

Don't worry, I'm with you man. I have a feeling Lillard may become our best blazer ever.

 

I can talk shit about Fatty Kyrie if I want! :MARIS61:

No but the video above had me at "he's more of an assist guy". Damian IMO will always average more assists than Kyrie.

(don't think I'm a Kyrie hater or doubt his talent. I know he at this point is better than Dame. I'm just a bigger fan of the more athletic, healthier guy.

 

Guys. Guys! GUYS! How about we just trade the drafts rights to Federico Kammerichs to the Cavs for Irving and then we can start them both together?!?!?

Oh wait, then our backcourt would be too small, nevermind, Carry on!

 

I actually don't get why someone is called a homer because they wouldn't trade Lillard for Ivring at the moment. Irvings rookie year was not as good as Lillards, take from that what you want, and who is to say that Lillard doesn't come out and have a sophomore year that is better then Irvings. Yes irving is 2 years younger but just because your younger doesn't mean you have higher upside or even if the player does, it doesn't mean they will actually develop that upside. Irving has lots of ?? about his health Lillard doesn't, both are considered great shooters who are horrible on D.
Pretty much what i'm getting at is that Irving has 1 more year in the league then Lillard and had time to develop more of his game and became a near superstar due to a great Sophomore season. There is nothing saying Lillard can't do that and if you just look at them from the end of their respective rookie seasons then its not all that ridiculous to say that Lillard has just as bright of a future as Irving.
I would trade Lillard for Irving right now because Irving is a better player at the moment and took that huge steps in his second season but I think Lillard can take just as big of steps as Irving did and it wouldn't surprise me if Lillard/Irving become the new CP3/DW debate.

 

I think we know now who wins the CP3/DW debate. Lillard/Irving already is the debate. And I wouldn't trade my healthy guy over the one who is constantly injured. I don't care if he "gets buckets" (love that BTW. Kyrie is HILARIOUS for doing that).

 

I'm just happy with the #6 pick, we got a player of Lillard's caliber. I'm pretty sure some people above us would like a redo of that draft.

 

Thats true but there were a couple of years (08-11 I believe) that it was an actual debate that was on ESPN a lot. I know making it on ESPN doesn't mean its anything but i'm just using that as an example of the fact it was a discussion topic.

 

I remember a couple years ago when I said Irving was a can't miss prospect and people were trying to convince me I was crazy. Particularly Ed. O

 

Deron was much better head to head and had more playoff success. If Deron has a better post season this year with the stacked Nets team it could easily be a debate again. CP3 knee could be a ticking time bomb any year now.

Dallas let a 29 year old Steve Nash walk so they could sign Erick Dampier, who know whats left in store for these PG's as they play into their 30's.

 

Namely Sacramento. Dame gave them a MONSTER workout and they passed on him. Now we have THEIR #5 Pick!
They should have never gave up on Thomas Robinson.

 

Everybody always turns a blind eye when I teach them about things.

 

[video=youtube;y962MIZyB4A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y962MIZyB4A[/video]

 

That's because you continually damage your credibility with Gonzaga homerism. And you're an arrogant shit, but most people are willing to forgive that.

 

This is Zag's way of trolling you guys, and you're falling for it hook, line, and sinker.

 

I wouldn't trade Lillard for Irving, I love Irving's game but I feel like Lillard going forward will be less of a headache, a better leader, and will, will a team to victory.

I like to think of it this way in comparing Lillard and Irving... Lillard is like Paul/Williams while Irving is like Westbrook/Rose.