http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nyxtfok We get Monroe, LA's 2014 unprotected, and CVEC for Aldridge and Matthews. Don't love parting with Matthews but felt like LA wasn't getting enough for Gasol and their pick. They team Aldridge and Matthews with Kobe and a free agent in 2014 Who says no?
Me. I don't trade with the lakers. Especially a huge lopsided trade that helps them immensely get rid of an overpaid injury riddled player for probably the top PF in the league and an extremely good role player
I was going to respond, "Detroit," because that makes no sense for them in the short term, but after looking at Gasol's massive expiring contract on paper, I'd see every reason for them to pull the trigger. I still don't see them parting with Monroe before the season starts, but I dig the idea. Good trade... seems to work on paper for all parties.
You don't think Gasol raises their 2014 ceiling? I think he's a short-term improvement over Monroe for them. And a better fit with Smith and Drummond.
It's a principled stance, I'll give ya that. But I like it a lot from our end: With Lillard/McCollum/Barton/Crabbe as the guards, dealing Matthews is palatable. Those four join Batum, Monroe, Robinson, and Leonard as the young core.
He'd definitely raise their 2014 ceiling, but if this trade actually went through, would their intentions really be to add Gasol for the long-term or to just value him as future cap relief? I was always under the impression that if they'd deal Monroe or Drummond, it'd be for some backcourt help. Yeah, Gasol would help them in the short-term, but probably not to the extent to where they'd be a contender. If they were really shopping Monroe and 'Villanueva's cap relief' for a long-term solution, wouldn't you think it'd be for the guys that have been rumored, like Rondo or Jennings? I figured you were playing off the scenario of both of those rumored trade options being unrealistic for the Pistons, so you put them in a situation to make a big backcourt signing in '14 while being competitive for the first time in a long time and upping fanbase morale next season.
Good analysis. I keep forgetting to try to get them a young guard in my scenarios. You're right, they would probably prefer that to this deal, but Gasol does have the dual short-term and long-term benefits we've touched on.
You know, I'm a few beers past having reasonable judgment, but that makes a lot more sense for the Pistons than the last scenario. I can't figure out what the Bucks are doing though. They've struck out swinging in pretty much every free agency scenario thus far, and they've reportedly already rejected some similar offers from the Pistons. I'm not a fan of Brandon Knight... really, I'd rather try my chances with Brandin Knight, but with the Bucks, it's hard to tell what direction they're going in now. I gave up trying to figure them out once they signed Zaza Pachulia to that ridiculously huge contract and let Luc Richard Mbah a Moute walk for pretty much nothing. With the apparent directions that all of those teams are trying to go in though, that's a great trade on all ends.
The league says no, because that deal doesn't work under the CBA. Pau's contract is more than 150% of the sum total of Monroe/Villanueva. Also, DET says no, unless Pau is extended for a few more years; otherwise they lose one of their best assets for basically nothing. That is even worse for Detroit--you have them giving up Monroe and Knight for Jennings. Monroe is the best player of those three; what's DET's motivation for that deal? I just don't see it.
Okay first off, what ever happened to the laker protected first rounder to Phoenix for Nash? I remember last season, if the lakers didn't make the playoffs, their first rounder goes to Phoenix? Since they made the playoffs, Phoenix didn't get the pick. Was that just a one year thing? I've asked this like 4 times and never got an answer. Second, I will never support any deal that would help the Lakers. None. I don't even care if we come out better on the deal. But even in this scenario, lakers come out best in the scenario. Why?
Other then LMA wouldn't want to play there why wouldn't we just do the deal directly with DET (and then maybe we get to keep Matthews or send him elsewhere for more help)? LMA doesn't have a no-trade clause. I guess you could say that DET might not be interested in a short-term rental.
Okay I find out for myself. http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/...st-round-draft-pick-dwight-howard-kobe-bryant Lakers 2014 second rounder belongs to Phoenix, and their 2015 first round pick too. That means they cannot trade their 2014 pick because you can't trade two consecutive first rounders. So any deal involving their first rounder doesn't work. It cannot work...
If I'm working any deal with Detroit; it's a three team with Houston. Using batum and Aldridge; we have a good shot at getting Monroe, asik and parson. Villanueva would need to be included to make salaries match. Batum goes to Detroit and Aldridge goes to Houston, with us getting a Houston first rounder (they have 2).
