It the LGBT Community Obama's claim to fame?

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  1. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    This is the type of hateful attack comment that makes people put you on ignore. It's also something a lefty would say to try and deflect the fact Obama has been a very poor President.

    And the sheep keep marching on.
     
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    Schools, hospitals, street, ships... get named after President because they were a US President, not because they were any good at it or not. It's an honor that goes with the office, not the man (or woman, if it ever comes to that). Therefore, I suppose a ship will be named after him. It certainly makes sense.
     
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Carter deserves a 3rd world class ship, since he tried to turn us into a 3rd world nation.

    LBJ deserves a destroyer, since he was a destroyer himself.

    They should build a really massively huge and expensive medical ship and name it the Obama. Big, costly, dispenses health care, but mostly just takes up space.
     
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    Papa G, please link to where I blamed Mike Rice Sr. for the behavior of his son. You can't. It's never. In fact I sent Rice Sr. a "hang in there" email when I learned he was getting nasty tweets and shit during games.

    Most people think Obama's main claim to fame was getting elected President of the United States, twice. Duh!
     
  5. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    I'm pretty sure Obama's claim to fame is being of direct African heritage. And PotUS
     
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    Maybe.

    I think he will be more remembered for the President that totally destroyed the economy when he had a clear chance to save it and was the author of Obamacare, perhapsa the single worst piece of legislation in the nations's history.
     
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    I did move the Eugene thread.

    And the Mike Rice Jr thread was a judgement call, while it didn't start off being a perfect Blazer forum subject by the time I read it it had turned into a conversation about Rice Sr and other Blazer broadcasters so I thought it should stay.
     
  8. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    I disagree. I will follow my stereotype and say that was GW Bush. But it's okay to disagree. =]
     
  9. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Well, Bush didn't do the economy any favors either.
     
  10. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Huh? Marazul is anti-gay (I don't use the word homophobe) due to his religion, which I can respect if he's courteous and respectful about it, though I don't agree. His picture of a boat is on every one of his many anti-gay posts. So Maris just made a joke that he's an anti-gay sailor. He said nothing about Obama.

    In the thread about ignoring, I think a total of only one person on the whole board said he has Maris on ignore. I remember because I was hoping to beat him and I did...
     
  11. Nate4Prez

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    I love how you added nothing to the thread and then accused jlprk of being the troll.
     
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    I don't think Obama has been a great supporter of LGBT rights. I know conservatives want to paint Obama in a super liberal light, but he hasn't done much for LGBT individuals. The repeal of DADT is the only major thing I can think of. DOMA went through while he was president but not because of anything he did.
     
  13. MarAzul

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    Try this on for a sense of history. The people reelected Obama once. The people reelected Franklin Roosevelt 3 time! Both facts are astonishingly difficult to justify or even understand for anyone who has witnessed both.
     
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    I doubt it.
     
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    I agree. Not to mention his Supreme Court Justice.
     
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    Some really good ideas there Denny. However, you have to remember, a ship needs a crew, a happy crew that is pleased to serve on the ship that they may die on. The name is very important to morale and combat efficiency. Starting with the name of turkey is to be avoided.
     
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    Interesting Eastoff. Very interesting. Here is an copy from a book written prior to the writing of the US constitution. It is the only place I can find where the meaning of "Natural Born Citizen" is defined.
    Given that Barack Obama's place of birth was Hawaii and he is of direct African decent and heritage, what does this mean for him?

    Vattel's Law of Nation 212 Book 1

    "Citizens and natives.

    The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority,
    they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country,
    of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens,
    those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this,
    in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society,
    reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children;
    and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion,
    they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country,
    it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner,
    it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country."
     
  18. MarAzul

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    Doma went through with Clinton. Obama decided not to defend the law in court. This decision by Obama was correct in my opinion because it was a law the US congress had no business creating nor Clinton signing. The question of who may be joined in a civil ceremony or by common law is a state issue. The question of who may participate in the spiritual ceremony to marry and become husband and wife is for the churches to decide as they have done for a long time now.
     
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    Not very perceptive jlprk I don't post anything anti-gay, nor am I very religious. I do study religion, all of them, but I belong to no church. However I do think Gay people that want to change the definition of the word "marriage" to cover the joining of same sex couples rather strange. They want the full meaning of the word to apply to them but at the same time reject the long standing spiritual meaning of being joined in the eyes of God.
    Perhaps this is the atheist view of the word marriage.
     
  20. Eastoff

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    Hmm that is interesting. I wonder when foreign texts will become american law?
     

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