Cervelli going to see Dr. Andrews

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  1. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...I was disappointed by what DIDN'T happen and I don't see Jeter and Granderson's returns as enough to put them over the top offensively, though obviously I hope I'm wrong. But until it is out of the realm of possibilities for the Yanx to get to the PS, much less be a serious PS threat, I don't see the need for wholesale changes just yet.
    ...but again, it is very possible we'll see a lot of young faces come September.
     
  2. BigDaddyAl1973

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    What makes u think the kid is ready to face a 94 slider a change up that looks exactly like a fast ball.. look the system is bare that's for sure but just because there is nothing at triple a doesn't mean you throw single a players out there and expect to save a season. Just saying he can't do worse than what they have now is not a good enough reason to rush a kid.

    the dimished mind of a soon to be 40 year old
     
  3. RustySpan

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    Sucks, the guy worked hard and showed improvements this year, he's a solid C.

    But the PED thing hangs over his head, so this injury may be best for him right now, real or fake.

    And I laugh when I hear fans constantly gripe about NY not bringing up the kids until they're old, totally clueless, the Yankees have a record of young players coming up very quickly, not the other way around, I doubt fans can show 1 player that should have been in the majors but was not.
     
  4. vette322

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    What record is that? Do you live in a cave?
     
  5. vette322

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    I agree - let's bring in more retreads. Instead of giving a kid a shot - let's go with more players who are being cut loose at the end of year who we KNOW can't hit a 94 slider change. You have the creativity of a corpse. If you think giving a kid a chance is gonna ruin his career, then you are delusional. So what's your option - the status quo? Check the waiver wires and see who gets released, and bring in more rejects and think that's gonna get you to the playoffs?
     
  6. BigDaddyAl1973

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    You are unreasonable and it is not worth my time to keep rehashing the same info. This season was lost even at spring training. Only reason for the retreads was because of injuries. Look at triple a. Nothing there either. There are no Bryce Harper's in this organization. End of story.

    the dimished mind of a soon to be 40 year old
     
  7. RustySpan

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    Cano, Melky, Robertson, Nova, Joba, Hughes, IPK...

    What have you got? who should have come up?
     
  8. Messiah717

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    There's nothing wrong with giving kids a shot as long as they're ready. Sanchez is not the guy you bring up.
     
  9. vette322

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    So what's your plan smart ass? You say the season is lost, and was lost in spring training? Really? I do not think Girardi, Mo, Kuroda, and few of the guys who have this team a few games out of a playoff spot with a 1/3rd of the season to go got the message that what they are doing is all for naught. Maybe they should just quit now.

    This team's offense needs to improve to give this pitching staff more support. Some of us believe that this team should exhaust all options from within, seeing that the retread route isn't going well, and that the trade deadline came and went and did not add much help.

    At least we all know - where you stand now. You have already declared the season over (even declared it over in ST), and seem content with the status quo retreads finishing out the season. Got it! But you don't want to give kids a chance, so you're good with this season ending with no playoffs and it being played out by guys who have zero chance of returning.

    You are right about one thing - we do not have to rehash this topic any further, because we all now know your stand is rooted in quitting, giving up, declaring all is lost, and slugging mindlessly and aimlessly to the finish line on the back of more retreads.
     
  10. vette322

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    Cano/Melky - 2005; Joba/Hughes/IPK - 2007; DRob - 2008. You do live in a cave, don't you? You couldn't even come up with a name since 2008. And don't bother now - you've already lost badly going back to 2005 to come up with names.
     
  11. BigDaddyAl1973

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    Genius. .name names of great prospects who are tearing up the minors that have been held back by the retreads. I'm a fucking realist and yeah...when jeter arod text and grandy all had significant injuries...yeah I said it was a lost season. Movwa for youklis, haftner and overbay were seen as bench roles. Not leading roles. Stop gap measures that failed. But look at the roster at triple a. Where are these great prospects...if they aren't tearing up MINOR LEAGUE PITCHERS what makes you think they would do any better at the majors. And yes there are other things you have to consider beforing bringing up everyone and anyone...40 man rosters...starting the clock on contracts..and for what? Getting the second wild card. This team as constructed is not winning the world series. There is no need to rush any player in the bare system.

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    Barely missing the playoffs doesnt help the future either. Mid to low round draft picks hurts.

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  13. RustySpan

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    Nova?

    Yeah, I won't bother, it's called a track record, not a record within the past 2 years, and it's not a contest to lose, you just have no idea WTF you're talking about, end of story.
     
  14. vette322

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    The track record going back to 2005 that you have pathetically attempted to convey is downright deplorable, and you aren't smart enough to know it. You're right - end of story. You tell a lousy story.
     
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  15. RustySpan

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    I won't deny NY has a lack of talent in the farm in recent years, but when they do have a good player, he comes up.

    But way to go not naming a few players that should have.
     
  16. vette322

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    As I indicated - you have nothing to say and no ideas. Status quo - do nothing, bring in retreads, give up, don't sell at the deadline, don't buy at the deadline, do nothing, wait until next year, throw in the towel, etc. Do you think Mo, Jeter, Kuroda, Gardner are quitting? Maybe you should tell them to mail in the rest of the season. You do know that this team has a Top 2-3 pitching staff in the AL right now, and they have 1/3rd of the season to find a way to get more offense to help them make up 3 games to get into the playoffs?

    So if you know that and you are planning to not see this team make the playoffs - why on earth would you use the remainder of the season to play guys who have no chance of returning next year?
     
  17. bern_baby_bern

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    Silly to say the kids don't get a shot even though it does seem that way. Problem is, not many kids coming up that can stick. Look at Romine. I spent the spring pining for him to get a real shot. When he didn't I cursed the organization. Cervelli gets hurt, he comes up and shows he's either not ready just yet or is just not long for the ML.

    Sanchez could end up being the real deal…only time will tell, but he does need time. You might see JR Murphy as a call up this season and certainly before Sanchez. Hopefully in 2015 you see 2 homegrown prospects in the outfield.
     
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    My idea…see if Ruiz or Young can make it to waivers to the Yanks and you make the claim. Either one of them is not only an upgrade but they are addition by subtraction, much like Grandy. The Yanks didn't have to make huge moves but it would have been nice to make another move for a bat. The rotation, even with CC faltering, and bullpen have not been a problem at all.
     
  19. Majorball

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    The key is should or need to be in the majors. But your opinion that the Yankees have brought players up quickly is so wrong. For example, If they were commited to the farm system as you say, then this spring training, both Almonte and Mesa had good springs. But Cashman went with the lighting in the bottle approach. Now for all of you guys who say well Mesa never has lite it up in the minors. About 2 decades ago there was a young switch hitter who played centerfield and he came up for defensive purposes at the time, I think he only hit 240, so by today's standards he would of been trash. He was projected to have little power also, but "Played a mean Guitar" that was Bernie Williams then, so now look at what Mesa did in a short sample, but Girardi would have run hafner out there another 200 bats if Hafner didn't break down. You make fun of Lillibridge, but he had two clutch hits last week, without the opportunity to get consistent AB's this is what you get. Oh, and by the way, Romine has 3 hits in his last game but we have to watch this AAAA Stewart swing at 2-0 pitches leading off the 9th. like she's babe ruth. So if they are so quick to promote I give you Romine 8 for his last 17 I believe and he can't sniff the field. Even Kay said he was surprised that Romine wasn't in Wednesday lineup, no the Yankees don't fast track anyone through a system unless you are Jeter (hall of fame) material, but we wouldn't know since we haven't had one of those since Jeter, I know now someone say Cano.
     
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  20. Rick2583

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    There's a reason so many players on the FA list are 35+, it's because teams know they can no longer perform. And those are the very players Cashman continues to bring in. I'm all for giving someone like Sanchez getting a chance. Which I've no doubt will probably happen on Sept 1st.
     

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