Sabathia needs to sit out a start

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  1. Messiah717

    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    He's given up 19 earned runs in the last 15 or so innings. I don't want to hear about getting squeezed on pitches last night because he wasn't sharp from the start. Top pitchers don't sit there making umpire excuses for their terrible performances.
     
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    The Yankees are 3-7 in his last 10 starts. And 0-5 in his last 5 starts. I don't think one game will be enough. And watching him fail to cover first its become quite apparent that his head is just not in the game
     
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    I think the Yankees have to seriously think about trading CC in August, along the lines of what the Red Sox were able to do last August when they offloaded Beckett, Crawford, and Gonzales.

    CC has been horrible, but there will be at least 1 team (Dodgers? ) who will think he can be rejuvenated for a playoff stretch run. If Cashman had any sense of creativity, he would have found a way to deal CC to the Dodgers when they were in LA this week. "Magic-CC; CC-Magic"...From there, I'm sure something could have been worked out.

    Truth is that this team can still compete for a WC THIS year without CC. It's not like his productivity can't be replaced - he's been the worst starter on the staff.
     
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    Last night should have been enough that the coaching staff stop treating these guys like they were the players of 10 years ago. Jeter looked awful in the field. He is not ready to play shortstop, may never be again, stop all the madness and move him to 3B to limit the amount of range he has to cover. CC, needs a 15 DL stint. The reason is to determine the odor coming from his performances of late. CC has been worse than Hughes, and send Joba to where ever you would like. I am starting to grow angry that Girardi and staff are so loyal to certain guys, it must be the combination of use to be and the amount of there contract.
     
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    It's not like some of us didn't see this coming a few years ago. The over reliance on aging players, the lack of productivity from the farm system, the long-term contracts that are an official albatross around this team's collective neck, etc. The Yankees have been playing with fire for years, and in 2013 - they are getting burned in spades. The perfect storm hit.

    Cashman could have shown some real leadership had he taken the goodwill from the 2009 WS and started to build from within. He had AJax ready to go, and when he chose to deal him and others for Granderson - that was the first domino to fall in the direction of where we are today.
     
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    I read an article last week and I tried to find it to post. But it was I felt spot on. The writer liken CC's current struggles to Messina when he was at the crossroads of having lost his dominant hard stuff, and totally re-inventing his approach. CC has failed to attempt that and I am growing unhappy with Rothchild who seems to be allowing this without intervention. Same with Joba.

    2009 looking back, will haunt us I feel for awhile. and your point that what is worse than CC and Joba, does it exist?
     
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    Hey LA would you like to bail us out and have a $300 million payroll in the process?
     
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    And if you act now, we will throw in a 3B free of charge, Why stop at 300 million when you can have 400 million.... Operaters are standing by....
     
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    Unfortunately I think the only way we'd be able to unload CC is if the Yankees agreed to pay 1/2 his remaining salary.
     

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