Is This a Hate Crime?

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  1. MARIS61

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    Everyone on that bus was a pathetic coward. Not one person opposed the thugs in any way. Not even the victim. People in big cities are soul-less zombies. Glad I got out in time.

    And to all you youngsters, 64 ain't that fuckin old. But it does carry a lot of experience. Most 64 year-olds could whip all three of those punks. If you're man enough to draw a check driving kids on a bus then you better be man enough to guarantee their safety while they're on it.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    This, and repped. The ageism in this thread really bothered me.
     
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    oldguy Well-Known Member

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    I agree with what you are saying. But I don't think there should be charges for the driver not intervening in the fight. Some 64 year olds ARE that old.

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    So a news report I just heard said that the boy who got beaten up had tattled that the other three boys were trying to sell him drugs, and this was retribution for telling. So in this case, no, it does not appear to be a hate crime, it's terrible, and the kids should be locked away for a few years, but there was a clear motive that had nothing to do with race.
     
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    Was there ever any reason to think it was a hate crime?

    People who jump right to race whenever anything bad happens annoy the fuck out of me.

    No, there is no evidence or reason to think this is a "hate crime".
     
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    I didn't see one, but I also didn't post in this thread till we had some inclination as to the reason why the beating took place. Silly stuff. Some things show evidence of racial motivation, some things don't.
     
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    I'm guessing you're not a big fan of Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson then?

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    So the reports of the three guys calling the kid "white boy" while beating him isn't racism, it's just a statement of fact.
     
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    If we expect bus drivers to regulate that kind of situation, then we need to (a) make sure that the expectation is set beforehand, and (b) understand that sometimes bus drivers are going to overreact and a kid is going to get unjustly pushed/grabbed/knocked around by a bus driver.

    Watching that sort of thing on YouTube causes a small fight or flight reaction in me (and probably most people) and in person seeing similar things (in my experience) is even more intense. It's not reasonable, IMO, to go after the bus driver after the fact.

    I also, as one who hasn't been in many fights in my life, am always surprised when someone can get punched and kicked like that and get off so lightly. I always envision getting my eyes jabbed out and my teeth cracked and knocked out when getting assaulted like that :)

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    A fan, no, I don't have any Sharpton Jersey's.

    But I do think that the majority of the issues they bring to our attention are relevant and should be looked at. There is racism and it needs to be addressed. I do think they sometimes go overboard, having spent so much of their lives on that singular issue, they sometimes see race playing an issue where it didn't, or think someones motivations were racially based when they weren't. Sharpton and Jackson do play an important roll in society, and the that's important. Just because not every issue they focus on is clear cut racism does not mean they are some bad people attacking the good folk of our nation. They are not part of the court of law, they are public figures exercising their freedom of speech, who have been working diligently towards the eradication of racism in America. And I might add that the grand reduction in racism in America is in no small part due to the activists over the years who have continually tried to focus the American consciousness on this scourge.

    It's our duty to look at each issue as it comes up and use our own judgement. No reason to enter with bias from either side, immediately certain that it's racially based or not racially based. And all this pointing the other direction, hey look a white guy was wronged by a black, is just rude and makes you guys look hateful. Sometimes there will be "reverse racism" and it will be evident. But don't do exactly what you seem angry at Sharpton/Jackson at doing, coming to racial conclusions far sooner than is warranted just to get those black folk back for thinking things are racially based. That's horseshit.
     
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    You can say the same thing with George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin.

    but the media runs with it.

    Face it. Any time its black on black or black on white, people put culpability on someone else (i.e. bus driver, society at large, etc)
    When its white on black, hate crimes and civil rights violations IMMEDIATELY enter the mix.
     
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    Repped for truth
     
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    I have said the same thing with Zimmerman/Martin many times and I completely agree with this post.
     
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    3 on 1 and the kid didn't have to pull a gun and kill the others to save his life.
     
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    Thd 3 black kids should plead Stand Your Ground. All the innocents did was to approach the white kid, obviously follow him, demand he stop, get into a fight with him...too bad they weren't armed as every American should be. The white kid would be dead and they'd be found not guilty under the Stand Your Ground law.
     
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    Calling him white boy clearly qualifies this as a hate crime under the federal statutes.
     
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    Might be the most retarded post you've ever typed.

    Google search of "man beaten to death" brings About 63,800,000 results (0.35 seconds) .

    3 bullets right then and there would have saved countless future victims from these worthless animals. Does anyone doubt they will all lead career-criminal lives, probably including murdering people?
     
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    Maybe you could quote where I said anything remotely like what you are saying I said?

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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    There should be no such thing as a hate crime. It's a load of crap that someone who kicks the shit out of someone in order to take his money is treated any differently than someone who kicks the shit out of someone, takes his money, and calls him names.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Al Sharpton smeared feces on a teenage girl to start a race riot. When there was no race riot, he realized he could profit handsomely from it. He's a scumbag race-baiting extortionist, just like Jesse Jackson.
     

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