Aldridge's Camp Discuss Trade Possibilities

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  1. Natebishop3

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    I think Williams and Wright are definitely in the "journeyman" category, but Lopez and Robinson aren't there yet. I think he brought in a nice balance of young guys for the future and vets who should make a huge difference off the bench.
     
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    Paul Allen runs the team the same way as most owners. He tries to hire good management. The alternative is the Jerry Buss style. Have your children run it. Which made Jerry West leave from the intimidation, etc.

    Another choice is how much to spend. Allen backs up his GM's every desire.

    Then the GM decides the strategy--the NY/LA model (sign only superstars who love a media center), the Pritchard model (do nothing all year, then draft badly), and the Whitsitt model (try everything you can).
     
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    This makes a lot of sense.

    So...what would you say the Olshey strategy is?
     
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    I think there's a fourth model. It's the San Antonio model and I think that's what Neil is shooting for.

    Get your stars (Lillard and Aldridge) and then put a solid group of role players around them.
     
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    I think Lopez, Wright, Watson and Williams could all be considered journeymen. I don't the feel the same way about Robinson and McCollum.
     
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    The Whitsitt model would more aptly be considered "stockpile as much talent as you can, regardless of chemistry." It worked in some ways, and backfired in others.
     
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    He switched strategies. Last year it was, add one needle-mover per year and suck until we accumulate several of them. After Aldridge got impatient, it became the Whitsitt model. Jam that bench full of players. But Whitsitt went for young upcoming players, while Olshey, because of a different CBA, signed guys who will be 28, 31, and 34.

    If Olshey adds a starter at the midseason trade deadline, he'll have gone full Bob.
     
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    lol.

    So I have to believe you are alright with that.

    The interesting thing about Olshey (And it maybe warranted) is I don't think he has a whole lot of faith and belief he can lure and keep a big time free agent in this market. He doesn't believe in the city of Portland. So to combat that, he has went after a bunch of journeymen. Players who could care less about the location and more interested in helping and saving their NBA career. Which may or may not be good.
     
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    To me, a journeyman is someone floating around on 10-day contracts or year-to-year. Like Telfair or Tolliver or Earl Barron.

    The 3 W's are former starters, or currently "solid substitutes." Watson, Williams, and Wright are not journeymen to me.
     
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    Are you talking at or around me? :)
     
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    Well you're the only who mentioned journeymen within the last 5 posts.

    Maybe you think I actually read entire threads before posting to them. Ha! How passé.
     
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    Huh? My alibi was I was in another county. I can't even tell you what gmo stands for.

    GM doesn't make Oldsmobile anymore.
     
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    So talk to me instead of at or around me. You know how to link the quote, right?
     
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    lmao.

    He doesn't quote you either.
     
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    At 23204 posts, when do you become worthy in JPS world?
     
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    When I'm answering the post right above mine, I figure my little topic is on the reader's mind so I don't need to tell the reader where to look to know what the hell I'm talking about or where, if anywhere, I'm coming from.

    That was a long sentence. I forgot why I typed it.
     
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