That's a bad argument. We havent observed anything outside of our laws of nature. But outside of our universe there would not be the same constants.
Exactly... Outside our universe, what we would think is "magic" isn't really "magic". Now you are getting it!
And I have never said there isn't a god. I DON'T KNOW. But I see zero evidence to believe that. I see zero evidence that a mermaid swims off the coast of South Africa. I don't believe one does, but technically it's possible because there is no proof one doesn't exist.
But there is no data to say that it's conscious and directed our creation. And there is nothing to say we didn't just come from nothing. There is not enough info to make any of those claims. I DON'T KNOW. get it?
That isn't the part of the thread topic. As you see by the title "God existing is quite reasonable". There hasn't been a single response that would sway otherwise. Throwing out a mermaid being possible has nothing to do with the genesis of the universe. AND it is not reasonable to think that a mermaid exists because "Why would this universe need to have mermaids?" They are not even close to the same point.
You are making assumptions that shouldn't be made. IF A then B, but that's not known. If A and that's it, we don't know B or C or Z. Heck, we don't even know A.
So if I can't explain how something works, then it doesn't exist? So here is where I admit, I cannot explain it, but I have a truly great quote for you. “While the Copernican principle comes with no guarantees that it will forever guide us to cosmic truths, it's worked quite well so far: not only is Earth not in the center of the solar system, but the solar system is not in the center of the Milky Way galaxy, the Milky Way galaxy is not in the center of the universe, and it may come to pass that our universe is just one of many that comprise a multiverse. And in case you're one of those people who thinks that the edge may be a special place, we are not at the edge of anything either.” ― Neil deGrasse Tyson, Death by Black Hole: And Other Cosmic Quandaries
But it's not reasonable. It's possible, but there is no reasoning that makes it more likely than anything else.
I believe it was leprechauns and unicorns that made the universe. Just as much evidence for that as any. Or maybe I just believe we don't know enough yet.
Assumptions? What assumptions? That the universe isn't infinite, that something infinite must make something finite? How can you explain this isn't the case? If the universe is finite, then there had to be something that put it there. AND if you try and use another theory of multiverses, or other theories, they too would be part of the finite equation.
That's your problem. You assume I have a belief. I don't. I don't believe without reason, and right now I have no reason to believe in anything, from god to space soup. There are no compelling answers. That's OK, the search is fun.
Define "reasonable"? Because there hasn't been an observed empirical observation of something finite being infinite. If something finite exists, then something created it. We are talking about conscious infinite being here.
There's not one shred of evidence that there is a "god" a "leprechaun" a "unicorn" or a swarm of mermaids. No fossil record, no nothing. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Why not believe in all that other crap instead? And I don't have any need to have some "conscious" being creating everything.
I assume?!?! Dude fucking read your replies! You've giving enough on your "belief" just in this thread. I am only responding to your comments. Tough shit if it's making you out to someone that you don't want to picture yourself being.
