Article About Yankee Farm System if you haven't seen it.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130610&content_id=50200974&vkey=news_nyy&c_id=nyy


...Law ranks the Yanx farm at #10....Axisa ranks them #11.....and behind only the Rays in the AL East.

 

Rankings dont matter much if the system doesnt produce. It hasn't. Again, tell me aboutthe system. Go ahead I am open to hear about the September call ups we cant wait to see and the impact players in waiting who will fill holes for the next few years. You mentioned Axisa and i posted a quote directly from him trashing the yankee farm system. So its nice the Keith Law sees some potential in some guys in the low levels of the system, but the system has now warranted enough confidence to expect that they will be developed correctly. Keith Law also panned Gary Sanchez, the yankees best prospect in his mid year list. There was a time when the yankees system was considered one of the best and they sure dont have much to show for it. Hughes was a can't miss, Joba was a phenom, the Killer B's were going to kill it etc. There is potential and then there is realizing it. The yankees actually didnt draft like monkeys this year, so thats a start. Now they need a GM with a clue and some coaches that know what they hell they are doing down there and we might be onto something.

 

...lamo..."rankings don't matter"/...uhhh, you pretty much "ranked" them didn't you?...did I call it or not....how typical, you make a broad statement about how terrible the farm is, I provide more educated opinions of yours that counter your claim, and you brush them off and discount them just as I said you would.
...and who said they had to be impact players right away, other than you?...you're a real piece of work.

 

The Yankees need players now. They have holes everywhere because of the failures in the farm. Much of these rankings are based on low level prospects. So great hopefully the Yankees don't screw them up. But as farm as a farm system producing the Yankees is among the worst. They need help kow before they have to overpay every free agent under the sun but that help is not on the way soon.

And I provided a direct quote for axisa backing up exactly what I have said. In Laws top 50 prospects he panned Sanchez as regressing and lazy and said he left him on his list basically just because. I hope these low level guys pan out in several years as much as anyone but as of now the Yankees are barren with MLB ready guys and the timing could not be worse.

 

You lost me when you said players who "may very well be ready by 2015'. Didn't you say the same about the Killer B's for 2013? Until these guys actually show they can produce consistently at the major league level - you really can not seriously defend this farm system's putrid output in recent years. And what players do they have now who are producing - Nova and ???? Don't say Romine - you don't even think he's good enough to take PT from Chris Stewart. Nunez? The guy is a train wreck.

As for the 'hypothetical players' - you don't think they could have used some guys in the OF? Catcher? the Rotation? The IF may be set, but let's not act like anyone from the minior leagues was banging at the door waiting for their chance in the IF. And you're defending Granderson? You wanted him so gone after last season, yet you are holding him up as better option all of a sudden. Maybe if you thought about it - the reason why guys like Granderson, Ichiro, Wells, Overbay, Stewart, and the other 'retread of the weeks' the Yankees have worn through this season have been kept is because the system is dry.

Saying guys "may be ready" in 2015 means nothing. Saying the system is ranked #10 means nothing if the guys don't contribute. The Yankees system was #5 a few years ago, due to Banuelos, Brackman, Betances, Montero - what have they gotten to show for that high ranking?

 

Here is a other quote on the banner farm from your boy Axisa commenting on Laws list.

The Yankees have just one prospect on the list — C Gary Sanchez snuck on as #49. “His stock has taken a hit as his receiving, much improved last year, has regressed, while his explosive hands and raw power haven’t produced offensive results yet, either,” wrote Law. It’s worth noting Baseball America, who ranked Sanchez 34th on their midseason update, had a more optimistic outlook on his defense. Baseball Prospectus was another detractor, however. Sanchez dropped from 18th on Law’s preseason list while OF Mason Williams (#35) dropped out of the top 50 all together.

 

The Killer B's, 'Stoneburner' (word of the year back in 2011), and all of the other 'low minor studs' have all not moved one iota in any direction to making a big league roster. Like I have maintained for - the record speaks for itself. ALL Yankee minor league players need to be considered disposable trash until I actually see evidence that they can either develop on their own, or can be developed by the system - neither of which seems to happen.

As the Yankees have shown us - having talent in the low minors is as meaningless as it gets.

 

By the way unless I am mistaken and please correct me if I am wrong but the rankings 59 mentioned are from jan/feb. considering some new injuries and recent regressions I would bet those rankings have fallen a bit.

 

They were as high as #5 a few years ago, so they are sliding - not strengthening. The low minor guys aren't improving, or are now injured, and they have adversely impacted the rankings.

 

Sorry vette I meant the ranks 59 stated. Putting them at 11. I doubt that is still the case. The system certainly hasn't progressed since Jan, it's regressed if anything.

 

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Nasty guy. WTF is your problem...can't get it up?

 

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it would be an honor if Keith Law disagreed with me on something....
Mike Axisa? lmao.....................

 

i just read through this article. thats some disappointing news my god some of those numbers are pathetic!!!

 

Most if not all teams that have farmhands helping in the majors afforded those player time in the bigs to learn this level, a much harder game than the minors, and the stinking flies under the radar because they're playing in the midwest or something, so nobody cares, but they usually get better.

NY is not a team that can afford that time, just look at Romine, a player batting like .350 since the break, how many had him as a nobody? looks like a major league starter in the making to me, but NY had him traded for a bag of balls just a few weeks ago, and that is exactly why the farm is not producing, not for lack of talent, but lack of opportunity, and fans are just as much to blame for that as the team.

 

there has been opportunity all year. the entire team has been hurt so if there was some good minor league players waiting this would have been the time.

 

We saw some, Zoilo, Adams, etc..

But case and point, most have written those players off, who wants to see them start next year?

 

besides zoilo and claiborne they wrote themselves off as not being good enough for mlb.

 

To make a long story short our farm system sucks as we have a clueless gm who can't draft talent, a lacking to be generous minor league coaching system as our players stay at the same levels for years before they either regress, get hurt, get traded or just plain suck. Even with the drafting catastrophe Trashman could've redeemed himself with the recent intl players that were free agents like cespedes, puig, darvish to name a few. Instead he gives us Kai I can't suck bad enough Igawa. LMAO. I'm hoping recent meeting down in Tampa a couple of weeks ago was the steinbrenner kids telling cash to enjoy the last month of the season cause your ass is out of here as soon as the season ends end someone competent from the farm systems of Tampa, Texas Minnesota or St.Louis is hired to start getting some young talent in here again. I guess this story wasn't as short as I thought. LOL