Lesbian couple refused wedding cake files state discrimination complaint

I'm not quite the libertarian that you seem to be, Denny, but in general I'm against government using it's powers to force a social engineering agenda. Denying people housing or the right to vote is one thing. A business owner making a choice about providing a service that simply would require going to another bakery is another. Where to draw the line is always going to be a matter of debate.

 

Ah! I see you understand. Perhaps the day will come when you too can add a bit, but thanks for acknowledging.

 

just because there is no collusion doesn't mean that the de facto result will be that a group can't find housing in an area. My grandmother (about 20 years ago) owned two apartment buildings in West Hartford CT. and her buildings were mostly black. I asked about this and she said that none of the other rentals in the area would rent to blacks, which allowed her to charge more and not discriminate. So the result was that the Blacks who wanted to live in that neighborhood had to pay 20% more than the whites. It wasn't collusion, it was just that there were a lot of racist building owners.

 

there are limited apartment buildings and owners. In this case in the area there were perhaps 15-20 apartment buildings and my guess is only a few owners. So who is going to cut in at 19%, the other owners won't rent to blacks, and why do people have to pay 19% more because their skin is Black. It's BS for anyone to have to pay 1% more because of the color of their skin.

Shit moves slow, and I would love for that to change, but if you are claiming that there has not been tremendous movement over the past 50 years on racism, that's BS also, it seems to me that many of those laws have been beneficial.

 

I gather you do agree that the couple (gay) were not discriminated against because of their sexual orientation, a protected "class" ( I should have used Class instead of group above). It was the implied act, the Wedding that was the issue. No possible discrimination could have occurred because of not providing a Wedding cake, since same sex marriage in Oregon is not legal and requiring any person to participle in preparation when it would violate their religious principle would in it's self be discrimination as well as an unreasonable application of this statute. How could anyone be in-violation of this statute for not suppling condiments or cake for an illegal event? It doesn't matter at all whether the hopeful buyers are or are not a member of a protected class, it is a ridiculous application and therefore completely wrong to harass these people out of business. It was shameful.

 

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West Hartford is the most charming part of Insuranceville, USA.

 

Do they make good cake?

 

Nobody knows. All the bakeries in CT are owned by religious fundamentalists. Rather than get shut down for refusing to make wedding cakes for gay couples, they simply refuse to make cakes altogether. But they sure do make a mean sugar cookie. :MARIS61: