Actually the Honda was more expensive. We drove an Accord, which was the most comparable in size/quality. It was a few thousand more, but we found it less comfortable. It did have some cool toys though. They have a camera on your right side mirror that lets you see if there is anyone in your blind spot. Very cool. I also liked their dash, but the way the car was set up was really uncomfortable for us. No amount of money is worth being uncomfortable in a car. We also looked at Kia, Nissan, and Mazda, but in terms of size, comfort, mpg, and reliability, we felt that the Toyota was the best option. We did shop around though. We could have gotten a bitchin deal on a smaller car, but we're making the step down from an SUV to a sedan, so we wanted something with some room. The Camry is huge, but still gets decent mpg. The thing is, there isn't that much of a price difference between a Camry and the other comparable cars in their class. There's a huge difference in price between a BMW, Mercedes, etc and a car like a Camry, or an Accord, or a Mazda, etc. So is the luxury worth the extra 10-20k? For my money, if I'm spending that kind of cash, I'm getting a Tesla. Awesome car and amazing gas mileage.
You didn't get the cheapest car that will transport your family from place to place. So you paid more for some things that you wanted. That is no difference than some people willing to pay more for things they want that a BMW offers.
Just go Granola man... Get your cloths from second hand stores. I mean they do the same thing and they are much cheaper than buying name brand shit.
This isn't about getting the cheapest. This is about paying in excess. There isn't a car out there for 13k, brand new, that is in the same size, comfort, mpg, and reliability. There are a ton of cars in the 18-25k range. What exactly are you getting for an extra 10-20k in a BMW or Mercedes that a Toyota or Honda doesn't have?
Easily. And they will get better MPG. Why did you overpay so much for your bike? Why is it all about status with you?
MPXY260T-4. This bike is a cross between a Vespa and motorcycle yet it looks good with plenty of power. It's ETA and Dot approved with plenty of safety features along with a smooth ride, storage space and get-up and go. Maximum at 80 MPH and 70-100 MPG. It's 250cc priced at $1,699.00 plus $300 shipping. And that's brand new. How did you pay $3,000 for a brand new crotch rocket like that?
I like the Tesla but it didn't fit what I needed. If I had mags money, that would be my 3rd or 4th car. For BMWs, I don't think it is the luxury as much as it is the performance. But whether the luxury is worth it is up to each person. Just like the comfort thing with you, maybe pay couple thousand more but you would sit on a bag of rocks before paying 10K extra (I get that). Isn't that really what it comes down to, what one is willing to pay for extra comfort (I am almost at the stage of life where I will pay to fly first class . . . almost . . . 2-3Xs the price before seemed out of the question and now I think about it each time before I decide to pay for the standard class). Point is that is an individual thing as everyone wants more luxury the question is what they are willing to pay for it. And with BMWs, if you are paying for luxury, you will be disappointed with how much you pay for the luxury you get. However, probably not going to be disappointed with performance. If I want purely luxury, I'm would go mercedes to lexus. But this all goes back to what I was saying, there might be a few who buy BMWs for their name, but most are buying for the performance. Here is what Edmunds says about the 3 series (used to own one of these and that is what got me hooked (I went from toyotas, to acuras, to BMWs) The BMW 3 Series is the company's top seller in the United States and a favorite in the marketplace for good reason: It's a well-built, premium compact car endowed with world-class fit and finish, ample power, and a comfortable ride and handling trade-off that is unmatched by most vehicles at any price. And that applies no matter what model or year you choose, as generation after generation of 3 Series enjoy the same benefits despite a constant evolution. This makes buying a used 3 Series a solid bet -- there's not a dud model among them. As for new 3 Series shoppers, the current model year represents one of transition. While the coupe, convertible and wagon continue on from last year's design, the sedan represents the new sixth-generation 3 Series. It's slightly larger and faster than the previous 3 Series generations, but lighter and considerably more efficient. It also has a bolder look inside and out, revised suspension and steering, and more interior space. Beyond its improvements, however, the current 3 Series is just the latest generation in a well-bred family of sport sedans. To be fair they talk about the high cost of a BMW and say some may find it to be overpriced.
Seriously, show me the scooter. You can't get a scooter that goes 65+ for under 3k. You can get a 50cc scooter for 2500ish. I have a 250 that gets 73mpg. Good luck beating that.
I got the Camry for 23k. I couldn't find a BMW for under 35k. I'm saying the price gap between a BMW/Camry does not fit the quality gap. If you can find a brand new car for 13k (which I doubt you can), then we'll talk about me spending in excess on a Camry.
Dude, the regular price on that thing is $4,999.00. They're practically giving them away right now (which isn't a good sign). If you want to get a scooter from a reputable company like Honda, or Vespa, or whatever, it's going to cost you a lot more than 1,699.00. And by reputable, I mean not a chinese piece of shit that will break on you in the first few years. My bike is an 03. It runs like it's brand new. I never said the bike was new. Blazerboy asked why I ride a bike and not a scooter. I have a 250 that's a 2012. It gets 73 mpg. That scooter company is flat out lying to you if they say that thing can get 100 mpg. I could see between 70-80 mpg tops.
You can get a Subaru Legacy for under 20K. I would like to know why a camry is over 3K more than a subaru.
Nate, thought you might find this interesting as I found it looking up Hyundai line of cars (Funny because the Toyota is sort of like the BMW in it's class in that it gets top ratings but some consider overpriced given other car prices in it's category) It seems like only yesterday that the Hyundai Sonata set the midsize family sedan market ablaze with sharp styling, class-leading comfort, generous feature offerings and overall value. Now, just two years on, the pressure is mounting from newly redesigned competitors made by Chevrolet, Ford, Honda, Nissan and Toyota. To its credit, the 2013 Hyundai Sonata remains an excellent choice. With a long list of standard features -- some of which are options on other sedans -- the Sonata provides a lot of bang for the buck. Add to this the availability of two strong engine choices (along with a Sonata hybrid model that is covered in a separate review), admirable fuel economy, top safety scores and a lengthy warranty and it becomes clear why the Sonata is far from becoming yesterday's news. Still, recent redesigns to the 2013 Ford Fusion and 2013 Honda Accord mean that the Sonata now has some company at the top. We would suggest that potential buyers take a look at all three of these midsize sedans, as the advantages among them are slight. By the same token we'd recommend the Kia Optima, which shares much of the Hyundai's underpinnings wrapped in an evocative exterior. Though not quite as impressive as these others, the Toyota Camry also earns our recommendation, buoyed by its reputation for bulletproof reliability. The good news is that among these choices, there's really no loser in the bunch. The 2013 Hyundai Sonata may not enjoy the sizable lead it recently had, but the standard it set is still very much a bright spot in what used to be a bland and uninspiring class of cars.
