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  1. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    By the way, speaking of Syria, this is pretty damn funny:

    Ha ha ha.

    http://nypost.com/2013/09/12/the-real-version-of-putins-times-op-ed/
     
  2. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    It's good for sound bites, but wittingly or not Obama has just made Syria Putin's problem. It may have been a good imitation of Mr. Magoo, but we could end up with the last laugh.
     
  3. Masbee

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    No way.

    Putin wins and wins big.

    If Syria calms down or gets ignored, he get a huge boost in international credibility and power.

    If Syria blows up - he may or may not be blamed, but so fucking what? Will he loose power in Russia? No. Will he have a lower opinion than he currently does in the West? Hardly possible.

    And anyway, the Post piece was a Joke.
     
  4. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Wins what exactly? the privilege of trying to corral a bloody civil war with no end in sight? And if history is any teacher then anybody who gets involved will get blamed if they succeed or if they fail, it makes no difference.

    In any case of course I knew it was a joke by the Post.
     
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    What he wins is stature in the eyes of the world community. He doesn't have to get involved in Syria. NOT getting involved is his notion of what to do. The stature means other nations will agree with him that getting involved is not a good idea.

    $.02
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    But now he is involved as the presumptive arbiter between Obama and Assad. Putin is going to have to keep his client Assad on his best behavior and he's going to be expected to produce "something" he can show to the international community as proof of Assad's compliance.
     
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    I wonder if the Nobel committee will ask Obama to return his prize so they can award it to Putin.
     
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    Nah, Obama and the media will just credit any diplomatic gains to Obama.
     
  9. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    That's one way to discredit Putin...
     
  10. Denny Crane

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    When?

    Obama took the vote for use of force off the table in congress. I don't think they're going to be any more willing to support bombing Syria than before.

    IF Syria disarms, Russia will supply it with all the arms it needs to maintain the government, no?
     
  11. PapaG

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    Can somebody tell me what his speech on the networks was supposed to be about this week, other than blaming Bush, yet again?

    http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-syria-talks-20130914,0,2171685.story

    Obama loosens demands on U.N. resolution on Syria

     
  12. Denny Crane

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    Putin looks like the Nobel Peace Prize kind of guy. Barak looks like the warmonger.

    FWIW
     
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    We're going to war for Monsanto again.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/297901/syrias-real-disciplinarian

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    The Globe and Mail of Canada published that on October 12, 2012 President Bashar al-Assad issued a law on GM foods in order to preserve human life, a state-run SANA news agency reported. Assad “has approved a law on health security of genetically modified organisms…to regulate their use and production” SANA reported. The law is meant, “to preserve the health of human beings, animals, vegetables and the environment,” the agency added.

    On March 26, 2013 President Obama signed the “Monsanto Protection Act”, which effectively bars federal courts from being able to halt the sale or planting of controversial genetically modified or genetically engineered seeds, no matter what health issues may arise concerning them in the future. Monsanto has manufactured Agent Orange, PCB’s, rBHG, Aspartame, pesticides, polystyrene, DDT and Roundup (Glyphosate) herbicide, which they conveniently own patent to its paramount crop of application: Soy.

    Approximately 180-185 million pounds of Glyphosate are applied each year and most notably so to Roundup Ready soybeans, owned and patented by Monsanto.

    California Proposition 37 was defeated November 6, 2012. It would have required the labeling of genetically engineered/modified foods, with some exceptions. Monsanto spent over $8,000,000.00 to see that this proposition was stifled.
     

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