to another NFL QB who would it be? I'm a bit lost, cause here how I see it. Marcus may be the most shy pro to ever play first. Second, he has Vick speed with Brady IQ and Marino touch so who would you compare him too? The thought that this kid has only started 3 years of football in life, with what he's showing us, I'd say he may be only Marcus and I'm fine with that! Thoughts?
I think Marcus has better touch on the ball, and his football IQ seems higher to me than Kaepernick. That said I think Kaepernick has a bigger arm and is more muscular for sure.
You said if you HAD to make a comparison. He's really the only guy that I think plays a similar style. Kaepernick was skinny in college.
I'm going to change it up. Not that I disagree with C-Kap...but, I do think there is a better option. After wasting an entire, and I mean entire Saturday watching college football every Sat, Sunday is for family and grad studies. I don't watch a lot of pro-ball but do have several fantasy teams and win a majority of the time. Ed O. and I have dominated, as of late. So, I think there are elements of Cam Newton, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson and Michael Vick. But, I'm going with Robert Griffin III. Why? If your league was a typical scoring league, RG would have landed you the most points (behind Brees, Brady and Rogers). So, the element you have to throw in is the scramble and rushing TD value (MM starting out strong in 2013). Newton was a close second, but RG3 brought home the most rushing points. The guy is quick, reads defenses well, maintains his composure, rarely makes the same mistake twice, has an awesome smile and what seems to be a together personal life, is 6'2" with some beef, and was born across the ocean (RG in Japan) - much like the one and only MM. Final answer: RG3
The interesting thing is that there are elements of all the players you mentioned, but he definitely has his own flow that is unique.
bigger faster Joe Montana. It's his ability to make the game look Joe Cool easy that reminds me of him... always has STOMP
Not seeing the Montana parallel. Did Montana ever run an outside and inside zone read? Over his 16 years, didn't he average around 100 yards of rushing per season and was he ever really a threat to run? Interesting...but, not seeing it. BTW, Montana was only allowed to play in a few scrimmages as a FR. Later, he entered several games late and never just became a starter and succeeded instantly. He also had a red-shirt year after a shoulder injury.
If we're truly considering the rush ability along with the arm, we should probably agree on Randall Cunningham. RC, I believe, is still the NFL's leading rushing QB and nearly identical in height and weight to MM. Cunningham revolutionized the position and made defenses adjust to defend against the run. If we ask defensive coordinators, I'd wager they would compare MM to RC. Steve Young was a much better rusher than Montana and still had close to a 100 pass rating. How many people remember the pass and rush balance that was polished Kordell Stewart?
wha? Kordell and Marcus probably have comparable measurables, but KM wasn't a very good passer at all. When he moves on to the League, I predict much bigger things will be in store for MM STOMP
I had to go back and research Stewart. It's been a lot of years but I thought I recalled a strong strong QB and decent arm. Named #6 most versatile QB in NFL history Won a few bowl games, including Fiesta while at Colorado Played in Super Bowl XXX Had several 3000 yard passing and 400 yard rushing seasons 56% lifetime completion rating (Marcus is avg 59% this year) Pro-Bowler AFC Offensive POY (Behind Steve Young) has season record for rushing TD's/QBs - all time So, I hope you're right and MM accomplishes more than this because KS had a respectable career! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlQYIFDJLr8
of course he had a respectable career, he made it to the NFL as a 2nd round pick and became a starter. But it's a big stretch to think that his stats stack up to Marcus's. In 3 years as a starter at Colorado, KS had 33 TDs and 19 Ints completing 58%. Starting his 2nd year as a starter at Oregon, MM has compiled 39 TDs, 6 Ints, completing 67%. As a rusher KS averaged 4.6 yards per carry, Marcus is averaging 8.4. He may also blow by Kordell's college career totals in rushing yards, TDs rushing, and total completion yards this season, all while usually watching from the sidelines in the 2nd half. http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/kordell-stewart-1.html http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/marcus-mariota-1.html as a pro, Kordell threw for 77 TDs vs 84 Ints and had a QB rating of 70.7. Yeah, I expect MM to do better STOMP
That's a totally fair assessment. For Stewart, I was only drawing the versatility and running ability - and what he did to defenses, comp. Pass comp % very close as well. Mariota's strength is the quandary he places defenses in. They must defend against he pass and the rush. He does not have the best touch in the world but can get the job done. BTW: Stewart sat for some games and MM has had to sit a ton of second halfs out as well...just for different reasons.
67% is close to 58%? Thats a significant difference IMO, but whatever. I agree that both were/are running threats, but I'll stick to my contention that MM is a significantly better passer. As you point out, defenses can't sell out on the run or pass with him. I recall defenses always loading up on the run vs Stewart and a lot of him spraying balls at the feet of open receivers. Another obvious reason that Mariota has better pro potential is that at 6'4 he brings prototypical size while Kordell was "only" 6'1. STOMP
Stewart had an avg pass completion rating of 58% in college (62% his last year) and an avg pass completion rating of 55.8% in the pros. MM is averaging 59.8% this year. Not that far off. In is two most productive seasons, KS has 3020 pass yards / 476 rush and 3109 pass / 537 rush. MM had 2677 pass / 752 rush. Last season MM had 32 pass TDs and 5 rushing for 37 total. KS had a combine 31 TDs in his most productive year in a system that wasn't designed to put up 59 pts a game. LOL Some similarities....statistically. Montana was 6'2". Didn't he avg 25 sacks a season to MM's 1.3 (est) a game? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAABWqhNvtg Hard to top Cunningham for his elusiveness, speed and ability to spread the field. He was doing this when it wasn't popular. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIhVX56hzfU
