http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/09/18/house_gop_to_push_budget_with_defunded_aca_119987.html "Shutting down our government is the one thing Al Qaeda couldn't pull off. They must be so proud of their beloved GOP." It's nice to know I can stop paying the part of my taxes that goes to the programs I don't like. So long NSA and war funding! That's like 40% of my taxes right there! WOO!!! Thanks GOP!
Refusing to pay for the ACA is no different than delaying its implementation. I, for one, think that no law should be implemented that isn't 100% ready to go. They've provided waivers for businesses and special interests, so why not waive the requirement for individuals? What you're seeing is just kabuki theater. It's a tactic meant to move the ACA debate to the Senate, where senators will go on record either supporting or opposing it. Then it will go into conference where the spending for it will be approved. Best case scenario, they delay implementation for one year so they can get the thing up to speed. Not even its supporters think it's ready to go.
By the way, this kind of shit is what happens when you ram through major social legislation with only one party supporting it. Other social programs of comparable impact (Social Security, Welfare) were passed on a bipartisan basis, with broad support. The Democrat Party owns this entire thing. They shut the Republicans out of the conference, they voted down every single amendment and basically told the party that represents a huge swath of the country to sit in a corner. When the American people responded to their actions by electing Republican governors in purple Virginia and deep blue New Jersey, they didn't listen. When Massachusetts--the most liberal state in the country that already has a version of this bill--sent a Republican to the Senate to stop the bill, the Democrat-controlled Senate passed it on a procedural basis. NEVER has anything like this been done with a major piece of legislation. I'm sorry, but in this case, you reap what you sow.
Also, everything else will be funded. How is it the responsibility of the Republicans if the Senate Democrats and the President decide to shut down the government over one piddling part of the government? Is Obamacare more important than the entire Federal Government? If so, I'd like an explanation as to why.
House of Representatives controls the purse strings. I see nothing constitutionally wrong with them deciding what to fund, how much to fund things, what not to fund at all. The exception are the trust funds like Social Security. Those have separate revenue sources (FICA) and the law mandates the trust fund pay benefits. I'm sure there are some anti-abortion laws somewhere they could find that they decide to fund to a massive degree that would turn people complaining about this underfunding into hypocrites.
And when the American people voted Republican in the Presidential election! Oh, wait, no... that didn't happen. I love Republicans trying to make a case that the majority of American's oppose the ACA. When, in reality the majority of American's don't care one way or the other, and then there's a small but very vocal group opposed to the ACA. The whole thing is a cluster fuck and both parties are equally to blame.
What I would LOVE to see is a better system for the House of Representatives. As it stands now, they spend most of their time trying to get re-elected, and not legislating. They also work in gerrymandered districts that clearly do not represent a proper cross section of their state. Finally, and the most galling, the number of representatives is not proportional across the country.
Donut or slice of pie. That's how gerrymandering is done. Donut means the inner cities get the hole vote. Pie means the minority is a minority of each slice. It's not galling about the representation. The smallest states deserve some representation. If they made one rep per 100,000 people, there would be over 3,000 reps and they'd never get things done. What is galling is that the Feds spend so much when it could be your state doing the spending. There your state house has wayyyy fewer people per rep, and everything is geared to help locally.
Because our countries credit rating will go down when the country defaults on it's loans, like it did last time this happened.
so you want to blame this train wreck on those who are trying to apply the brakes? so typical..your Furher is the one that crammed this pos down the throat of the nation..choke all you want, but dont blame those who would do CPR.
You mean passing what you want by a democratically elected majority of the people, reflecting the will of their voters? Yes. Yes I am.
The American people handed the House of Representatives over to the GOP after the passage of Obamacare. One of the most liberal states in the union sent a Republican to replace Ted Kennedy specifically to uphold a filibuster to stop this legislation. Barack Obama was re-elected two years after the ACA was passed. It was a fait accompli by that time. My question is this: Why are Democrats so afraid of the debate? If it's a great idea, then they should be able to sell it. So far, the more people find out about it, the more they don't like it. As for your contention that the majority of Americans don't care one way or the other, and that opposition is small, the polling says differently. As for both parties being to blame for Obamacare, that's simply not the case. We can disagree on opinions, but we can't disagree on the facts.
Newsflash: We wouldn't default on our loans. The incoming weekly revenue is more than enough to cover our debt.
I can blame Republicans if Obamacare fails. It's funny how the states that want it to succeed and work to make that happen seem to have no problem with it, but the states that want it to fail will be successful at that. So yes, both parties are to blame for "this cluster fuck" that is going on right now.
On what metric would you call it a failure? I'm interested. We were promised if we liked our health plan, we could keep our health plan. We were promised if we liked our doctor, we could keep our doctor. We were promised that it would bend the cost curve down. We were promised there would be no death panels. Every single one of those primary promises have been broken. They're not even debated by supporters any more. Why? They knew they were lies when they sold it. Are those lies the fault of the Republicans?
