That's most definitely where I was at that time. The 2009 WS represented the culmination of a multi-billion $$$ effort to get that elusive, post-2000 WS title, and at that time - they should have begun the process of turning the team over, while still maintaining competitiveness. Cashman had his title, and could have used that goodwill to enact his younger/cheaper/more athletic plan, but instead he decided to use that goodwill to correct previous wrongs in his mind (Javy/NJ) and reach back for a player who beat the Yankees in the playoffs in 2006 (Granderson), but had already started to decline 3 year later.
...Tex and CC were 2-3 years younger than Cano when their deals originated. And 1Bmen and pitchers typically age better and can play longer than 2Bmen. 2B is also a more physically demanding position and CC and Tex don't have to worry about having their knees shredded by a baserunner plowing into them trying to break up a DP. The Yanx as well as other teams also realize this fact and won't be as likely to overextend a contract for a 2Bman. ...teams and their GMs have also spoken out recently about how long term deals don't work out in the long run. And fewer and fewer teams are now prone to extend those kinds of contracts. If you're gonna give out a 10 year deal it better be to a player it better be to a young player like Trout or Machado or Meyers or Harper or Stanton or Puig for example. That way even when the contract is up the players are still barely out of their prime. ...if there is any team out there who MIGHT give Cano more than 6 years, it's the Yanx...and I hope they don't.
While I agree that 1B and Pitchers typically age better, regrettably both Tex and CC have disproven that theory over the last year, as both are only a little beyond halfway through their deals and already in sharp decline. Now - is that a lesson for the Yankees - perhaps? But it's not gonna impact Cano's thinking that if he does return, he's not gonna take less than what those guys got, and certainly not make less annually than either of them over the next 3 years those guys are still around.
Here's what I think the idiots in the FO will do, the'll give Cano an 8 year deal & also (because they don't learn) the'll give him an opt out clause after say...year #5.
A Rod, Tex and CC stole lots of money from the Yanks and have not produced in return. The Yanks are crazy if they follow this path. These folks are living the good life and are in decline. Cano in the past few days is laughing and having a good time anticipating all his future coins even though his team is getting their asses whipped. He does not care as he is arrogant and lazy. How many double plays has he hit into this year. He has talent but will never peak to super status. Let him walk and get a hungry young player..
They should make a rule across the board, no more opt-out clauses. It has to be one of the dumbest things ever put into a contract.
agreed, but isn't that collusion? I hate opt out clauses... I hate long term contracts... so in the words of Michael Kay... See Ya!
For me, there has to come a point and time in the Yankee universe that the market correction takes place. As stated many times, we have made a lot of players into multi millionaires, when the farm system could augment quality players such as Cano for example, that help blend the big contracts with potential great young stars at a controllable cost over a reasonable period of time. Today, none of that is happening, as an organization we are losing on all fronts. I'm full into a total rebuild. 60 win season, provided the farm issues starting with AA down starts producing major league quality starting position player and pitchers. There is no way I cave into Cano... 300, 250, 200 million over any long period is wrong. Give him 30 for 5 with club options for 6, and 7.
...the fan base will not stand for a 60 win season...if you think there are empty seats now, imagine what the park would look like if the Yanx field a team that lose 100 games next year. ...they have the money to spend for next year and I think it will have to be blend of younger players and vets and FAs and trade acquisitions....and there are a few players out there who could help this team. ...and Cano can forget about $300 Mil...in fact, I doubt he gets $200 Mil.
It's going to be very interesting to see what teams will be in on Cano, because the big money teams like Boston, LA, LAA, Texas and Philly will not be in the mix IMO, so that leaves few teams that can afford a Cano, he's doing one thing and one thing only with this $300 crap- looking for as much as possible from NY, because in the end they may be the only game in town, and the Yankees know it, I doubt they overpay this time, I think they'll make an offer in the $150 range and he'll be forced to take it.
The only negotiating power he really has is what another team is willing to offer him. He's not going to sit out of baseball insisting his contract demands be met. The economics in baseball have changed and too many teams have been burned on the long term big money deals. I've always said overpay him per year but limit the amount of years. If he has an issue with that tell him to pick up a basketball and see if he can go find a max contract somewhere in the NBA.