CelticBalla32 vs. CB4AllStar

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  1. CB4allstar

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    WTF man. You have to tell everyone why you voted for him.
     
  2. ballerman2112

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    dude, u are the only one interested. if I lose (which I might considering he got the last post), I will take it like a man. I know im the sh*t and it doenst matter. haha. have the same attitude.
     
  3. Nitro1118

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Sep 25 2006, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Using facts is great. That's obvious. But it's the fact that he's <u>looking them up</u> instead of using sheer knowlege. I hate that. It's like I'm battling nba.com.I'm done arguing about that now, but I had to get my point across. Using websites to get your information is not the way it should be. It should be based on you and your knowlege. Nothing more, nothing less.</div>Dude, it is nearly impossible to memorize what Karl Malone's stats were in 1996, and Duncan's in 2002. It is great to throw your own knowledge, what you have read, and all that, but stats and facts buffer your points to where they are solid and complete.
     
  4. nba dogmatist

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Sep 25 2006, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Youre being ridiculous. All other debators use stats.</div>they use facts to back up opinions, not to determine opionions.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Sep 25 2006, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WTF man. You have to tell everyone why you voted for him.</div>Wow. Be a man...Whatever though, I'll give them to you. Here it is princess:I voted for Celtic because he made a better debate in some ways. I admit, you had the edge for stats and all (mostly because celtic had a bit of a wrong veiw on that, but I somewhat agree with that). CelticBalla backed up his points better than yours, it seemed as if he was more confident on his choice, and he didnt need many stats to make a solid point.If you disagree, well that's too bad. Sorry I put it bluntly but this is as I saw it and I was completely unbiased.
     
  6. CB4allstar

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ELiiiTE @ Sep 25 2006, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow. Be a man...Whatever though, I'll give them to you. Here it is princess:I voted for Celtic because he made a better debate in some ways. I admit, you had the edge for stats and all (mostly because celtic had a bit of a wrong veiw on that, but I somewhat agree with that). CelticBalla backed up his points better than yours, it seemed as if he was more confident on his choice, and he didnt need many stats to make a solid point.If you disagree, well that's too bad. Sorry I put it bluntly but this is as I saw it and I was completely unbiased.</div>nvm..
     
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    ^ Alright then dude but if you have any problems, just tell me... because if you think I judged unfairly or whatever I want to know.
     
  8. CB4allstar

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    What great points by Celticballa do you mean? It seems to me that he didnt prove much as to why Malone is better.
     
  9. ballerman2112

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    In my opinion, this is an easy one to judge.My winner is CB4.I hated the fact that Celticballa kept trying to say how Malone was a "good rebounder" when in fact Tim was a better one. Sure, he is a good rebounder, but you are suppossed to argue that he is a better rebounder, defender or shot blocker or whatever the hell you want to argue. Even if it is not necessarily true. It is honestly irrelevant that Malone is a good rebounder when Tim is a better one. I also liked the fact that CB4 talked about leadership and how the Spurs capitalized in the playoffs. Sure, Malone made it to the finals twice and lost both times to a good bulls team, but they only made it their twice and the spurs did three times. In 99 and 03, the Spurs supporting cast wasnt that great. Also, in the finals, it isnt all about which team is better, but about heart and determination. If Malone was that great, he would have made it to the finals more and capitalized at least once. I also want to touch on the statistics. Sure, CB4 used them a little bit too much, but he used them effectivley and it helped his arguement alot. You can do it, so why dont u? You can argue all you want about "its cheap or whatever", but if its allowed, then you should do it. I like CB4's arguement better and that is why he is my winner. BUT, I think that his arguement could have been ALOT better. Their were alot of things that you missed out on in order to blow this debate wide open.
     
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    The Spurs made it to the Finals 4 times [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Sep 25 2006, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What great points by Celticballa do you mean? It seems to me that he didnt prove much as to why Malone is better.</div>CB4 I like you man, you are a good poster, but lately you have been bitching and moaning about everything. Take it like a man and stfu. It is what it is.
     
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    Sorry man. If he is going to vote against me, I atleast deserve a valid reason.
     
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    Look, it's not like I'm going to change my decision. If you really did do a better debate, then other judges will base it as that. I just saw it differently. Personally I don't want to write out every little detail why I preferred CB32's.I'm not the only judge.
     
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    Then why the hell should your vote count if you dont have any worthy reason for it?
     
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    Shut up and move on. Seriously
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Sep 25 2006, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In my opinion, this is an easy one to judge.My winner is CB4.I hated the fact that Celticballa kept trying to say how Malone was a "good rebounder" when in fact Tim was a better one. Sure, he is a good rebounder, but you are suppossed to argue that he is a better rebounder, defender or shot blocker or whatever the hell you want to argue. Even if it is not necessarily true. It is honestly irrelevant that Malone is a good rebounder when Tim is a better one. I also liked the fact that CB4 talked about leadership and how the Spurs capitalized in the playoffs. Sure, Malone made it to the finals twice and lost both times to a good bulls team, but they only made it their twice and the spurs did three times. In 99 and 03, the Spurs supporting cast wasnt that great. Also, in the finals, it isnt all about which team is better, but about heart and determination. If Malone was that great, he would have made it to the finals more and capitalized at least once. I also want to touch on the statistics. Sure, CB4 used them a little bit too much, but he used them effectivley and it helped his arguement alot. You can do it, so why dont u? You can argue all you want about "its cheap or whatever", but if its allowed, then you should do it. I like CB4's arguement better and that is why he is my winner. BUT, I think that his arguement could have been ALOT better. Their were alot of things that you missed out on in order to blow this debate wide open.</div>haha, after all that, you're not evena judge. [​IMG]
     
  17. CB4allstar

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    Im fine if its going the other way. I just feel the judges should have to post good explanations backing up their decision. whatever, 1-1 I guess..
     
  18. ballerman2112

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Sep 25 2006, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>haha, after all that, you're not evena judge. [​IMG]</div>well you know what, my damn vote should count anyways. Nobody else is judging.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Sep 25 2006, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>well you know what, my damn vote should count anyways. Nobody else is judging.</div>That's because Nitro asked us to PM him our votes, and brief explanations as to why we chose the side we did. Atleast that's what I did...
     
  20. ballerman2112

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    well I didnt know that and I dont see why it matters. I feel like I gave a good enough explanation.
     

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